What is the best video editor for editing anime?

Raharu Haruha · Post by **Raharu Haruha** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:57 pm

I've had serious problems with editing on adobe premiere and WMM. i want a new video editing device! preferably something that works well with DivX and Xvid compression.

what are your opinions, thoughts, suggestions?

NS · Post by NS » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:41 pm

Good luck finding something that works well with divx and Xvid.

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The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:52 pm

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Ileia · Post by **Ileia** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:15 pm

/me !

Raharu Haruha · Post by **Raharu Haruha** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:13 am

NerdStrudel wrote:Good luck finding something that works well with divx and Xvid.

Banner this thread now plz :O

la sigh. why and how are animes made? there has to be something that works with it. if there's not, then the mere existence of anime is an anomaly which could only be described as a vertical line. that's right, i went there. i divided by zero, oh-shi

anyways, there's seriously nothing that works with it? and everything is it? telling me what i know isn't going to help me -.- you could have rudely said that i should recompress all the files and u would have been more helpful.

or, here's a nice question. why does it seem that i can load these files into wmm, but soon as i put them into the timeline it crashes? da fuck?

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:38 am

uhh...you do know that anime isn't encoded exclusively with divx/xvid right?
if you get anime off of dvd's (like a lot of people here do) it's encoded as mpeg-2

you can work with divx and xvid footage, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. Working with footage encoded with divx or xvid is probably the best way to make sure that your video will de-sync on your final encode and look bad.
You also run the risk of loosing all your work (which has happened to at least a few people)

WMM probably crashes because your clips or eps start with a b-frame.
basically the frame is saying, "look at the frames ahead of me and behind me to get all of my information"
since this is the first frame...there is no previous frame to get information from
this causes a host of problems.

in premiere, you can try to import aivsynth scripts to get around this problem, but you'll probably be out of luck as soon as you start making clips (or making more clips out of your clips)

in vegas I believe you can change the fourCC to dx50 and be able to import the footage...but there is at least one case documented here where someone lost 13 hours of work because he was too stubborn to listen to our advice

if you want to edit this footage [reliably], you will have to re-encode...there is no way around it.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:17 am

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:

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note the huge green text O:

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The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:40 pm

la sigh. why and how are animes made? there has to be something that works with it. if there's not, then the mere existence of anime is an anomaly which could only be described as a vertical line.[/quote]

not all of us download our anime.

Jake Furlong · Post by **Jake Furlong** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:55 pm

Oh, I wanted to make a new thread asking about various video editors and such, but since this one is here, I might just look for answers in it...

Here goes:

I just finished my first video, edited using Premiere Pro. I had to learn it as I was editing, a world of pain, I tell you... Noobish mistakes that I shouldn't have made, a lot of wasted time, you know, the works. In the end everything came together well though and any faults my clip has are due to my lack of experience most likely.

What I need to know now is:

- Before I get into Premiere Pro too deep, are there any other editing programs outhere that could be considered "better" than it? Or is "better" just a matter of POV?

- During the making of the video I stumbled upon a few nasty spots. A major issue was that I needed to cut out of a scene some parts and integrate them in another. Masking/rotoscoping/whatevayoumightcallit - Premiere gave me an extremely hard time with it. Meaning that I eventually had to cut out each frame in Photoshop and redo the animation frame by frame on the timeline. The problem comes from my Shop skills (or lack of them to be more exact). I would much rather be using some tracking/field editing in the video editor itself, than go with Photoshop, even if I have to reconstruct the animation frame by frame as well...
Now, I have received advice telling me to move my ass and learn how to shoop, since it will do me a world of good later on. However, I must know first: can such compositing be done by avoiding Photoshop/image editing programs?

- After Effects. Can it be used by itself as an video editor? I heard that "it's not as flexible as Premiere" when it comes to editing, however "it's worlds apart when it comes to effects". What does Premiere have in the editing department that AE doesn't have?

Thanks in advance and hope to get some answers soon...

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:15 pm

how good a program is depends on your personal style and experience

rotoscoping can be done with other programs. Personally, I use AE for this.
I think the biggest advantage of rotoscoping in AE as opposed to photoshop is that you don't have to import each frame, then export every frame, and then import it into another program.

you can edit with AE, but you will find it a bit different than premiere. The biggest thing is that you can only really hear the audio when you do a ram preview...which makes syncing a lot harder.
You don't have to worry about number of layers in AE...but it can become cumbersome to work between 50 different layers where in premiere it would be something more like 4 layers

there are other pros/cons between premiere and AE, but I think that those are the major ones...once again it comes down to your style and preferences