End of evangelion dvd problem

[Axellx]

i'm having a bit of trouble with my eoe footage. the company that made the dvd(manga) for some reason decided to make it a 3:4 movie with black bars on top even tho its a widescreen movie.(there is no widescrean version btw) because of this the footage gets stretched out when i zoom in on the section i need in vegas and makes it lose quality. Is there any way i can cut off the black boxes and make it a widescreen movie in virtual dub? and what would i have to put in the script for that?

[Qyot27]

You mean they *still* haven't put out the Renewal editions? My word, what a bunch of lazy bastards.

My suggestion would be to order the Renewal Films R2 set from CDJapan - believe me, it's worth it. It's anamorphic, and it's far superior in quality to the crappy Manga release.

If that isn't an option, then load the footage into VirtualDub. I'm assuming you're loading it in with an AviSynth script that uses DGDecode to process the MPEG-2 files. Make sure that you have already resized the footage to 640x480 in the script, like so:

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MPEG2Source("eoe.d2v", ipp=true, cpu=4)
TFM(order=-1,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)
TDecimate()
Lanczos4Resize(640,480)

Note #1: the TFM, and TDecimate lines are there for IVTC, which the Manga release needs - if you don't have the TIVTC package, it's available here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=82264

Note #2: I default to Lanczos4Resize because I normally don't work with footage as crappy as the Manga EOE release; you may want to use a different resizer, like BilinearResize or BicubicResize, instead

Open the filters dialog and select Null Transform. This does absolutely nothing to the footage, but that's what it's supposed to do. Now, with that highlighted, click the 'Cropping' button. Adjust the values until the letterboxing and left/right borders are gone. Take note of those values, because you need to put them back into the script with this line (you want to add this line either after the Resizer, or before it, if you plan on changing the resize line to a proper value later):

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Crop(X,Y,-X,-Y)

(where X and Y represent the values for X and Y given in the cropping tool; the - signs are needed on the last two values, unless said values are 0; be aware, however, that unless you've used ConvertToRGB24 before cropping, the values need to be even numbers)

For the next step you need the VDMod_Resize plugin, which can be found on the VirtualDubMod Sourceforge directory under Misc (for some reason Sourceforge is either down or blocked where I am so I can't get there, but this is the link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdubmod/files); there's also a link to it on some Russian webpage if you snoop around a little.

Now, with the Crop line now in the script after Lanczos4Resize, reload the script in VirtualDub. Go back to the filters area and select VDMod_Resize. This will allow you to proportionally scale the cropped video to either a standard 16:9 resolution or at the very least quickly tell you what the closest mod16 values are to the resolution it has now (mod16 is important for compressing the video after editing - but that's a different discussion). The corrected values will be the ones on the furthest right in the Resize window's top bar. If you want to revise your script, then you can input those new values in the Lanczos4Resize line, replacing 640,480. If you decide to do it this way, then make sure to put the Crop line before the resizer. Otherwise, just add another resize line after the crop.

That release of EOE also suffers from dot crawl pretty bad - you might want to look into LUTDeCrawl to take care of that - remember that it has to go before TFM if you decide to use it.

[Qyot27]

This will allow you to proportionally scale the cropped video to either a standard 16:9 resolution

Gah, what I mean is that it'll only be a standard 16:9 resolution if the cropped video is also in 16:9 ratio. 16:9 ≠ widescreen.

[Qyot27]

This will allow you to proportionally scale the cropped video to either a standard 16:9 resolution

Gah, what I mean is that it'll only be a standard 16:9 resolution if the cropped video is also in 16:9 ratio. 16:9 ≠ widescreen.

Shit. Not again. Reverse that. Widescreen doesn't always mean 16:9.

[Axellx]

i know its not real widescreen but i simplify things lots of times.
thanks for the help, i'll try to do this step by step later

[Axellx]

ok after going through this(and thank you for giving the time to help me out)

1) something in the first line messes up the video and makes it play diagonally so either ipp is not true or cpu is not 4

2)how do i install the resize filter, i cant find where i put it

3)should i just use the defaults for LUTDeCrawl?

[Axellx]

btw this is what i have so far


MPEG2Source("F:\Evadvd\eoe\eoe.d2v", ipp=true, cpu=4)
TFM(order=0,mode=5,PP=7,field=-1,slow=2)
TDecimate(cycle=5, mode=2)
Lanczos4Resize(640,480)
crop(20,68,-24,-68)
ConvertToRGB24()

[Qyot27]

1) something in the first line messes up the video and makes it play diagonally so either ipp is not true or cpu is not 4

Well, delete ipp=true, see if that fixes it; if it doesn't, then add it back in and delete cpu=4. If that also doesn't fix it, remove both (and at this point I'd assume you'd already tried without the extra options, so you'd know it'd work if they weren't there).

The only other thing is to make sure:
A) the indexing was done with DGIndex
B) that the plugin doing the decoding is the version of DGDecode that came with the version of DGIndex that created the d2v.

If you need to be certain both are the correct versions, then delete the version of DGDecode.dll in C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins, then go and download the DGMPGDec 1.5.3 package from the main site:
http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec.html

Unpack it, put that DGDecode.dll in AviSynth's plugins directory, and use that DGIndex to create the d2v file.

2)how do i install the resize filter, i cant find where i put it

Which resize filter? Lanczos4Resize, BilinearResize, and BicubicResize are all core filters - there's no install needed.

If it's VDMod_Resize, then it's here (I can access Sourceforge again, yay):
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=158229

Unpack it and put VDMod_Resize.vdf in C:\Program Files\VirtualDubMod\plugins (note: the location may vary depending on where exactly VirtualDub or VirtualDubMod are - there should be a folder called plugins in there, which is where you put the filter).

3)should i just use the defaults for LUTDeCrawl?

I would guess; to be honest, I've not had a chance to use it yet, but from the examples and comments on the function's thread that I linked to, it should be alright. Also note I haven't worked with that Manga release of EoE in ages so I'm not entirely up on how bad the dot crawl in the source was - I just knew it was there and that it was noticeable.

[Hiro The Dragon King]

Someone should post a sticky for this source. I see this thread so often and I myself even asked about it once. We just need a sticky with a recommended script or at least the link to CDJapan page for the Renewal DVD.