What is the best format to use for video editing programs?

AngelOfTheDark · Post by **AngelOfTheDark** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:39 am

I'm using Imtoo DVD ripper. Can I just save it as "AVI audio-video interleaved (*.avi)" and use it straight in my program? The quality seems to be more than satisfactory for me so far (and I'm picky about quality). I just want to know what'll happen after I've saved my project before I go to the trouble of making a video just to find it doesn't look good at the end.

Also, I'm watching the clips I ripped as samples and the sound & the picture don't sync up by a few milliseconds (the mouth will move at the second syllable spoken instead of the first). This has happened after saving it in three different formats. This isn't a problem for editing, but I'd like to watch the videos on my computer, too, and that will bug me. So does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? This didn't happen when I saved a few other things on my computer and I don't think I'm doing anything differently, so I'm confused. Unfortunately, the help section in the program is literally empty and I don't have a manual because I downloaded it and used a registration code.

Thanks for the help. I've read the guides several times over but sometimes you just can't beat talking to a real person. Since I'm the only editor around where I live this is the only place I can go for real help.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:46 am

AMV_4000 wrote:isnt asf basically MS Mpeg 4 V3?

ASF is the container that Microsoft developed to handle MS MPEG-4 V3 video streams. When MS MPEG-4 V3 got hacked to enable it to be used in an AVI container (again) it became DivX

3.11 Alpha. Of course, MS MPEG-4 V3 then became WMV7 (WMV1), etc.

Since a great deal of MS MPEG-4 V3 content was available in ASF, I can see the correlation.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:40 am

AngelOfTheDark wrote:I'm using Imtoo DVD ripper. Can I just save it as "AVI audio-video interleaved (*.avi)" and use it straight in my program? The quality seems to be more than satisfactory for me so far (and I'm picky about quality). I just want to know what'll happen after I've saved my project before I go to the trouble of making a video just to find it doesn't look good at the end.

Also, I'm watching the clips I ripped as samples and the sound & the picture don't sync up by a few milliseconds (the mouth will move at the second syllable spoken instead of the first). This has happened after saving it in three different formats. This isn't a problem for editing, but I'd like to watch the videos on my computer, too, and that will bug me. So does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? This didn't happen when I saved a few other things on my computer and I don't think I'm doing anything differently, so I'm confused. Unfortunately, the help section in the program is literally empty and I don't have a manual because I downloaded it and used a registration code.

Thanks for the help. I've read the guides several times over but sometimes you just can't beat talking to a real person. Since I'm the only editor around where I live this is the only place I can go for real help.

I'm not familiar with that program, but if you have the option I highly suggest not using it.
the problem with [most] dvds is that the footage is interlaced, and editing with interlaced footage is a pain (and you can't be sure that your sync will turn out right)

you may experience the audio/video skew because of the size of the file.
Chances are that your computer wasn't made to play 1GB large video files
(so much information that the file can't playback in real time...which could generate that audio discrepency)

get dvd decrypter from www.doom9.net and follow the guides, trust me...they know what they're taking about.

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:07 pm

http://cb-r.org/Guides check on this, it is a quick guide to tell how to to rip and edit with dvds

Digitalmaster3605 · Post by **Digitalmaster3605** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:49 pm

AMV_4000, I dunno if you noticed, but some of the images have broken links.

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:43 am

Digitalmaster3605 wrote:AMV_4000, I dunno if you noticed, but some of the images have broken links.

no i didnt notice that, i'll go back over the guide when i get home, thanks for catching that, I thought i caught all the bugs!

AMV_4000 · Post by **AMV_4000** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:48 am

sorry to double post, but i fixed the bugs... the images were *for some reason* linked to a file on my network... and so instead of trying to find the pic on my site it tried to find it on someone pc... just had to delete most of the code and boom! its back to normal!! so yeah, the guide is fixed, if it helps anyone lemme know cause well.. thats its job...

also, if you think i should add or change anything lemme know.. if there is an easier way for newbs to rip and edit without editing their scripts too much then im open for suggestion.... *im thinking about possibly adding the de-interlace code to the script, but the only animes i've come across that needed it were FLCL and Princess 69... everything else looked pretty good as is.. *

thx

AngelOfTheDark · Post by **AngelOfTheDark** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:44 pm

Thanks for the help guys. This does work a lot better. I'd been putting off using this way for a while because my hard drive is only 40 GB (I'm getting a new computer in a couple months w/ a lot more memory) but since I only need six episodes (FLCL) I went ahead with this way anyway. Used up all my free memory, but that's okay. I wanted this one to be perfect since it's a gift for a friend. She wanted me to make one for her bf since she's graduating this semester and moving away. She doesn't know how to make them herself, so I told her I'd do my best, and that's what I intend to do, so thanks from both of us!!! Also, AMV_4000, that guide was the best one I'd read yet. Even without the pictures I could figure out what was going on.

AngelOfTheDark · Post by **AngelOfTheDark** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:00 pm

AMV_4000 wrote:*im thinking about possibly adding the de-interlace code to the script, but the only animes i've come across that needed it were FLCL and Princess 69... everything else looked pretty good as is.. *

Actually, the project I'm working on is with FLCL, so if you could post that code I'd be grateful.

Thanks for the help!

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:04 am

AngelOfTheDark wrote:
AMV_4000 wrote:*im thinking about possibly adding the de-interlace code to the script, but the only animes i've come across that needed it were FLCL and Princess 69... everything else looked pretty good as is.. *
Actually, the project I'm working on is with FLCL, so if you could post that code I'd be grateful.

Thanks for the help!

I'm crossing the streams with this reply by posting my AVS script here...

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mpeg2source("C:\AMV Project\FLCL Clips\FLCL_V1.d2v", ipp=true, cpu=4)
Telecide(order=1, guide=1)
Decimate(cycle=5, mode=2, quality=3)
Crop(4, 0, -4, -0)
LanczosResize(720, 480)

Yes, I stretched the video a bit by cropping and resizing. It was necessary to get rid of the bit of black on the right and left edges of the frame. Episode 3 needed a bit more cropping: Crop(8, 0, -4, -0) to get rid of the extra black on the left edge.

This script will also make the final output at 23.976 fps so if you are using Adobe Premiere, you should add AssumeFPS(24) to the end as specified here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... 24fps.html