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Post by Zarxrax » Tue May 22, 2007 5:57 pm

Orwell wrote:Would you be willing to share the source code so that it could be adapted to my tastes?
Yea, I'll send you a PM once I get some time to gather it together.

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Post by Zero1 » Tue May 22, 2007 6:13 pm

Unfortunately since most of the people who develop tools such as Haali's splitter, and perhaps VSFilter are MKV fans, MP4 softsub support is last on their list, especially since .SSA and .ASS are working - they would rather improve those than work on 3GP softsubs (which to an extent I can appreciate).

At the moment, Haali's splitter "supports" them; I use the term loosley because it never really fully supported, or rendered them they way they are supposed to be. What it did was convert them to SSA on playback, so the positioning was slightly off and styling was lost. Since then Haali said he "fixed" 3GP support, but now it's probably worse than it was before - a lot of my samples that work in Osmo4 do not show subs (or show them offscreen) using Haali.

I believe MPC has it's own internal MP4 splitter - and that renders them quite well.

3GP subs require work by people that appreciate the spec and use; unfortunately people would rather work on "open software" that gets no industry support. IMO it's a waste of time - I like SSA and ASS for hardsubbing because it's very versatile - but I don't think it's well suited as a distribution format. Each to their own; I'm appreciative and greatful of the work these people do, but a little dissapointed that 3GP is going nowhere.

3GP isn't as restricted as people think - it largely relies on the renderer to make it look decent as it is a format originally designed for mobile phones. Of course on mobile phones you have low CPU power, and the ability to show the subs off the main video (eg in the letterbox), so outline is not required - however a decent renderer should have an outline by default, and the ability for the user to set basic defaults for styles. Of course you are able to specify position, colour, and where to put the subs in 100% or fullscreen (for instance the subs are overlayed on the video at 100%, but in fullscreen they are displayed in the letterbox), it also has basic karaoke, clickable links, font type and size setting.

As for softsubs in MP4 - you need SRT as input and you can add it in MP4Box which converts it to 3GP timed text, you need to use "-add" to add the stream and "-ttxt" to convert it. I softsubbed an MP4 AMV once for the hell of it, and it used to display fine using Haali's splitter and VSFilter, but now it doesn't. AFAIK it still works in Osmo player, which is what you should use for reference (Osmo player also supports MP4 Menus and in program controls like in HD-DVD.)

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Post by ChronoWraith » Fri May 25, 2007 10:48 pm

Hello,

Orwell asked me to add in the subtitle support for the zarx264gui. Currently it is pretty basic and only allows .srt and .ttxt files. And even with those it is not extensively tested. This has been tested with the latest CCCP and works fine from the testing so far.

Again all i added was the subtitle support and i didn't touch any of the existing code for how everything else functions.

link is here for now.

If there are any errors you have with the subtitles please let me know and if it is a problem with the gui I will do my best to fix it.

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Post by ChronoWraith » Fri May 25, 2007 11:02 pm

made a mistake... its a zip file not a 7z so real link is: here
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Post by nmaster64 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:48 pm

If I install AMVapp and then a codec pack like CCCP (or in reverse order), would there be any issues with overlapping codecs? It seems like with the two installed I should be all set as far as codecs are concerned...

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Post by Gepetto » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:24 pm

there shouldn't be a problem, bt just to be on the safe side, go with CCCP first, then AMVapp
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Post by Zarxrax » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:00 pm

nmaster64 wrote:If I install AMVapp and then a codec pack like CCCP (or in reverse order), would there be any issues with overlapping codecs? It seems like with the two installed I should be all set as far as codecs are concerned...
AMVApp 3.0 beta does not install any decoders.

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Post by Sereenie » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:28 pm

There was a downloadable version of the old guide, which was convenient since I am always offline when I do video work. Is there one for the new guide? I can't seem to find it...

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Post by Sereenie » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:25 pm

Sorry to double post! I was reinstalling the AMVApp3 and came across the following at http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... intro.html and thought maybe it hadn't been mentioned yet:
If the installer does not automatically detect your Premiere Plugins folder, you will need to select it yourself. When it asks you if you want to configure the settings for the plugin, you can skip it for now if you like, as it will be covered later on. If you would like to go ahead and configure it though, see [url=file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Alan/Desktop/guide/avtechbeta/videogetbmeth2.html]this page[/url] for more information.
As you can see, the link is wrong. It points to your own local file instead of the server's.

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Post by Zarxrax » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:58 pm

Sereenie wrote: As you can see, the link is wrong. It points to your own local file instead of the server's.
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