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CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:16 am

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:- Alternative codecs for alternative people - Div5, RV9, WMV9, vp6, 3vix... explain but not always recommended

On that note, make sure to keep ErMac's guide around. The part in his guide on MPEG-1 encoding is a must.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:22 am

Yeah, MPEG1 encoding isn't going anywhere.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:31 am

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Yeah, MPEG1 encoding isn't going anywhere.

Just making sure.

kmv · Post by **kmv** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:32 am

I'd like to see a section on how to do IVTC.

I realise that ErMaC and trythil sort of touched on this, and while I agree that theory is a fine thing we should remember that application is quite a different beast.

My most hair pulling experience with the guides was the first time I wanted to IVTC a really f**ked up disk. I found that learning what to look for in both the frames and the fields, what tools to look with, and then how to use that information to build a script specifically for the disk took quite some time. And, I firmly believe that the knowledge can be passed on – although I realise that quite a bit of text would be required.

If it makes a difference, I'll even offer to write the first draft (no credit required).

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:19 pm

Expanding a bit on how to do a manual IVTC in TMPG would be pretty nifty.

Fungie½ · Post by **Fungie½** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:44 pm

I'd personally love to see a guide on how to do high quality stuff with Windows Movie Maker. I've had to teach a few people how to do it but you can't exactly use AVS scripts in WMM. With more and more people using alternatives to Premiere, I don't think basing the guide around Premiere again is a good idea.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:51 pm

Well you can always use the clip method for getting clips into other programs that do not support AVS. Unless someone out there finds the time to write a plugin for their application of choice that would be the only way to get AVIsynth source into those programs.

And since Premiere does have such a plugin, it only makes sense to include info on doing things like the swap method. Since you can.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:16 am

Fungie½ wrote:I'd personally love to see a guide on how to do high quality stuff with Windows Movie Maker. I've had to teach a few people how to do it but you can't exactly use AVS scripts in WMM. With more and more people using alternatives to Premiere, I don't think basing the guide around Premiere again is a good idea.

Well I'd be all for it. The only problem is that I havent got the first clue about WMM as it's an XP program. I use 2k.

Klinky is correct that the clip method is designed for people who cant use avs files in their editing program and I do think that covers everybody. There are no other special techniques for other programs than the ones listed - it just so happens that the Premiere stuff takes a whole lotta explaining, which is why the guide has such a Premiere-bias.

Of course, I could do with a setup and export guide for each of the main programs. There's one for Premiere as that's what I use but the others can be featured - but someone else would have to write it.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:10 am

I think the guides should have more info on how to IVTC/deinterlace something when the footage is HORRIFICALLY screwed up. For example, in my latest attempt to get clean Evangelion footage, I've created 5 AVS scripts per episode, each with Separatefields followed by a different SelectEvery(5,x,y) pattern (and, of course, Lanczos resizing so they're not 3:1 widescreen...). It would be working swell if the VOBs didn't occasionally switch between top field first and bottom field first

Speaking of Lanczos resizing, would you mind explaining how all those different resize methods work?

Oh for the love of God, man, let me download your ripped Renewal VOBs! PLEASE! No one should have to suffer through this!

risk one · Post by **risk one** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:27 am

Perhaps it would be a nice idea to elaborate a little more on anamorphic sources. A lot of people seem to be getting it wrong. (Personally I still don't understand why 720x360 is 16:9)

And more info on PAL in the various sections is a very good idea.

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