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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Zarxrax » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:10 pm

VitualDubMod will no longer be included, but will be replaced by standard VitualDub and AvsP. I have not tried version 2.0 yet but I will take a look at it.

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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by AaronAMV » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:18 pm

Zarxrax wrote:VitualDubMod will no longer be included, but will be replaced by standard VitualDub and AvsP. I have not tried version 2.0 yet but I will take a look at it.
And why is that? :o
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Willen » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:20 am

AaronAMV wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:VitualDubMod will no longer be included, but will be replaced by standard VitualDub and AvsP. I have not tried version 2.0 yet but I will take a look at it.
And why is that? :o
Why no more VirtualDubMod? I think I can guess.

1. It seems that development has been abandoned and it's been stuck at version 1.5.10.2 build 2542 since Feb 21 2006. VirtualDub is up to version 1.8.8 as of Jan 4 2009 and is still being worked on.

2. Many of the added capabilities of the Mod fork can be done through standard VirtualDub with the use of filters/plug-ins. There are MPEG2/DVD, WMV/ASF, MP4/3GP, DirectShow, and other input plug-ins available for various file types. VDM's native MPEG2 support didn't get used much anyways since many people load them (primarily .VOBs) via DGIndex/AviSynth.

3. Some of the added features aren't as useful now to AMV creation as they were a few years ago. With the transition to .MP4 and H.264+ACC (and ZarxGUI), VDM's being used less in the AMV chain.

That being said, I liked VDM's AviSynth script editor.
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Gepetto » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:49 am

Willen wrote:That being said, I liked VDM's AviSynth script editor.
That was the one feature I always used. Isn't there a way to get Vanilla VD to mimic this behavior?
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Post by Qyot27 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:38 am

Willen wrote:1. It seems that development has been abandoned and it's been stuck at version 1.5.10.2 build 2542 since Feb 21 2006.
Actually, VDubMod was independently updated to 1.5.10.3 build 2550. The post is from last October, but the info in the program seems to indicate it was actually compiled in Dec 2007, so the state of development is still in question. Whether or not they'll continue to update it or bring it up to the 1.8 branch, I don't know. Considering the input plugins of the main VDub, that would leave just the AviSynth editor and Streams menu being the only parts exclusive to VDubMod, right? Or am I missing something? I'm omitting the OGM and MKV save support because I really don't view those as necessary at all.

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As far as VDubMod goes, I much prefer the Streams menu to the original's Audio menu. That said, I do have both VDubMod 1.5.10.3 and VDub 1.8.6 so it doesn't really matter.

Even considering the stock VirtualDub, would it be possible to include the VDMod_Resize plugin, considering it can work with both? Unless of course there's some other app included which will show correct proportional values to adhere to X:Y aspect ratio while also optionally taking mod16 into account - those bits of functionality are exactly the reason I use that plugin so much, even though I do all my resizing in AviSynth.
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Zarxrax » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:39 pm

AvsP actually replicates much of the functionality that virtualdub has traditionally been used for. I am working on trying to get a custom resize calculator made for it though.

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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Kira_Douji » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:34 pm

My favorite part of VDM is also the script editor and the ability to import a clip using an (aviSynth) template. Will either of those be available if we switch to VD plain? I seem to recall trying it once and either not getting that functionality or disliking how it was implimented.
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Zarxrax » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:46 pm

Again, this is the purpose of AvsP.

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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Warheart » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:10 am

I've been absent quite some months now only taking a glimpse once in a while thus I have a couple of questions the answer of which would come in handy I guess. I have a ne,w PC and due to it's 8gb ram and my unwillingness to switch over to vista I have xp64 and already ran into problems with several other minor programms like ultra mon,so I wonder if I'm ought to install the amvapp or if there are various components, like virdub for instance, that might cause problems, and it would be wiser to get the stuff elsewhere to assure they are 64bit compliant?

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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Zarxrax » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:01 am

Amvapp contains 32 bit stuff, and I would highly recommend you stick with 32bit apps as well. 64bit is only useful if your entire processing chain is 64 bit, and thats not really possible right now.

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