Hatter vs. Tab: The Codec Grudge Match [SPLIT]

[inanitydishamen]

Writing *snicker* all those times made me hungry.

Maybe he's being paid by whoever makes snickers to fill almost every post with their brand name! It's so smart no one else would have thought of it! Thank goodness I'm here, equipped with my Holy Broadsword of light +27 against retarded 'demons' who live in west coaster's heads.

[Lyrs]

Is that a Diablo2/LOD allusion?

Anyway, i think there's enough beating on a dead corspe already. Unless of course you guys still have more to say.

[Tab.]

My experience with Twist Of.

1. Upon download, I instinctively open up wmp6.4. My screen is blessed with the retarded size of SVCD, and I remember I have to watch this garbage in PowerDVD or some media player where I'll have to correct the AR myself. Mental note: never release AMVs in SVCD, 99% of viewers will stop before here.

2. I'm treated to all kinds of shitty on the fly resizing algorithms, that eventually lead me to give up reviewing the vid's 'quality' using any method that would give me a half-normal AR. I go back to mp6.4

3. Finally able to see the video clearly I revel in it's AWESOME interlacing, mosquito noise, rainbowing, blocking. Side note - for some reason the vid is reapeating itself or something, cause I keep seeing the same scenes over and over.

4. Curious, I check out the headers to see exactly what made this monument of SVCD ugliness. Ah, TMPG with the default settings as to be expected.


I guess it's no coincidence that you support SVCD so much and never seemed to know wtf you were talking about when it came to Mpeg 4, you just refuse to admit that you've no clue what you're doing. I mean, why else would you encode your shit to msmpeg4v2? Why else would you have no grasp on why divx 3 was hacked and how it works? Why else would you have no clue what an mpeg 4 systems stream is? Why would you do mass encodes in DivX 5.02?

Ah yes, I remember. Back when I was a n00b, and all I knew were TMPG's default settings. Back when I did produce XCD rips in OGM with DivX 5. It's ok Matty, we're all "stoopid" at some point. You know, that stage where you think you know anything, but really don't. Back when we were too egocentric to step down and realize that we don't know shit. What was it called..? Oh.. childhood I think?
Saddest thing is, I'm some 8 years younger than you, you poor, delusional wad of net backwash

[jonmartensen]

3. Finally able to see the video clearly I revel in it's AWESOME interlacing, mosquito noise, rainbowing, blocking. Side note - for some reason the vid is reapeating itself or something, cause I keep seeing the same scenes over and over.
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While something must be said for being consistent when dealing with a songs chorus, using the same 8 second shot 4 times is a bit repetative.

[Tab.]

While something must be said for being consistent when dealing with a songs chorus, using the same 8 second shot 4 times is a bit repetative.

Dude I wasn't even listening to the song, I couldn't stand the music, I had steakslim's animatrix session playing in the background. That's why I wasn't sure if it was supposed to do that.

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

Bullshit.

Uh oh, look out, someone's gettin snitty!

DVD+/-R has greater compatibility on set top DVD players than SVCD burned on a CD.

Yeah maybe if you bought a DVD player 10 years ago. I've never had any problems with SVCDs playing on any DVD player...XSVCDs, that's another story. And uh, I hate to be the one to break this to ya, but if you encode as a DVD, yeah it's gonna be on a DVD, regular cheapo run of the mill 700mb disks aren't gonna cut it.

Not to mention the bitrate limitations of mpeg2 streams burned onto CD (due to the cd reading speed of most set top players being low).

...um...you do understand that the DVD format *IS* an MPEG-2 stream, right? o_O

I'm sorry, this is a bullshit argument as to why your net distributed encodes are superior.

Hey don't argue it with me, Cupcake, go and argue it to the SD-6 group. *snicker* No, really, why don't you show up in their newsgroup and enlighten THEM as to what they're doing wrong. ^_^

We are talking about formats distributed on the internet.

Some of which are for watching on your computer (and most of those are done with DivX) and the rest are for watchin on yer DVD player (and most of those are done in SVCD). I really don't get what you're arguing about, I mean, I'm not makin this shit up, it is the way that it is. I'll gladly give you some links to bit torrent sites or recommend some binary newsgroups if you like. *shrugs*

In real life I produce DVDs of my music videos... much better for curling up on a couch to watch.

No you don't.

Your customers? Exactly how many amvs have you done commercially?

Um...I've never sold AMVs, TV shows, movies, anime, that's another story.

At least I can say that there are thousands of people around the world t
that have a DVD with my editing work on.

Um...okay. *shrugs*

I find it hysterical that you seem to think SVCD is unproblematic when in reality most western marketed DVD players have awful SVCD support.

I've never experienced any problems with SVCDs...XSVCDs yeah, but that's to be expected when burning out of spec.

Of course, this is all pointless because you're just back here to troll and you'll be banned again by the end of the week as your head explodes.

Oh yeah, look at me, trolling. *rolls eyes*

Remember you said you'd break the org?

Remember when I went around claiming to be a Vatican Nun in all those newsgroups...he, he, he...now that was funny. Point is, I'm not handing out any awards for credulity and why on earth would I want to break a place that's so much fun?

What's the matter, did you get tired chipping away with your spoon?

Oh and I was trying *SO* hard...*snicker*...you just don't get it. Most people don't though. You see you can't really destroy a group in any physical sense of the word. The only way to actually do damage to a group is by influencing and manipulating the people in the community. How they view things, how they respond, etc, etc, etc. Thing of it is though, I'm simply not trying here, never was. Sorry to dissapoint.

[Onideus_Mad_Hatter]

I've got quite a bit of stuff. Kinda various and random though. I've got Cat Girl Nuku Nuku in OGM. Tenchi Muyo and Tenchi Universe. Kiki's Delivery Service. E's Otherwise. Ranma 1/2 OAVs.

Licensed shows. Not fansubs, warez boy.

o_O Okay now you're not making any sense. Last I checked both Tenchi Muy and Universe were licensed. Second, what part of OGM aren't you getting? They're not fansub, heck they're not even just subbed. They're subbed, dubbed, and raw, all rolled into one, that's the point of OGM.

vob files of things that are sourced from TV? What are you smoking, again?

...RRRRIIIIGGGHHHHTTTT...

*backs away very slowly*

o_O

[Tab.]

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Not to mention the bitrate limitations of mpeg2 streams burned onto CD (due to the cd reading speed of most set top players being low).

...um...you do understand that the DVD format *IS* an MPEG-2 stream, right? o_O

Did you not understand what he said. Please honestly just tell me if you couldn't understand his comment, because that's hilarious. Grade A response. You were joking, right?

Thing of it is though, I'm simply not trying here, never was. Sorry to dissapoint.

You blew a lot of smoke, though, but I guess that's to be expected.

[jonmartensen]

Not to mention the bitrate limitations of mpeg2 streams burned onto CD (due to the cd reading speed of most set top players being low).

...um...you do understand that the DVD format *IS* an MPEG-2 stream, right? o_O

WHOOSH

[trythil]

So I guess the original point of this thread was ogm vs. mp4 vs. matroska?

Spite.

I'm not going to bother to contribute anything else because it's pointless to argue with a hardcore relativist