NTSC vs. PAL

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Post by HeavyMetal » Sat May 08, 2004 11:34 pm

Almost forgot I don't guess, I forget things that have little use for.

Like I give a rats ass about PAL. Or NTSC for that matter.

Don't be so pretentious, it makes you look like a trekky who left the basement.

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Re: Do I have target on me or something?

Post by Scintilla » Sun May 09, 2004 12:35 am

HeavyMetal wrote:
tab wrote:That's why you take a minute to research (hint, widescreen) instead of making uneducated guesses. There was no such thing as widescreen until after the TV formats had already been cemented.
Theater screens. They weren't exactly wide screen, but they weren't the same size as TV.
Um, didn't A.D. explain in a different thread that movies <i>were not in widescreen</i> (Panavision and Cinemascope were not developed) until <i>after</i> TVs came around? :roll:
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Re: Do I have target on me or something?

Post by Tab. » Sun May 09, 2004 1:32 am

HeavyMetal wrote:Theater screens. They weren't exactly wide screen, but they weren't the same size as TV.
Actually, you're wrong.
HeavyMetal wrote:Almost forgot I don't guess, I forget things that have little use for.

Like I give a rats ass about PAL. Or NTSC for that matter.

Don't be so pretentious, it makes you look like a trekky who left the basement.

OMG THAT BURNS MY HAERT SO BADLY.

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Post by Tab. » Sun May 09, 2004 1:40 am

Almost forgot I'm going to follow my post with some kind of sly comment to cover my ass and make me look cool, so here goes:

It's really awesome to rationalize idiocy through the "I don't care" phenomenon. The humorous part of it is you're merely saying that you freely talk about things baselessley, making yourself out to be even more terminal than before.
Now I'm going to throw in a blanket geek joke because everyone who isn't an idiot must be a trekkie and penguins are old tv shows.

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Post by HeavyMetal » Sun May 09, 2004 12:20 pm

Actually I used to be a real nerd. (Metallica tends to change that.)

I admit I don't know that much about NTSC vs. Pal. But I do know a lot about the history of TVs and VCRs. I mostly stick to what I need to know to purchase a kick ass product.

As for the tech info. I tend to forget it. I automated my DVD conversion process years ago right after I learned everything. If you don't use it, you lose it.

Don't be a smart-ass your not good at it. The real point was that you are pretentios not a trekky. Its far worse, but I guess I should use more common terms. Second theater screens made the switch and TVs remained. Tell me I am wrong all you want, but that changes nothing.

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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Sun May 09, 2004 12:23 pm

...because it's so much better to be an ignorant asshole.

Did metal teach you that too?

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Post by Tab. » Sun May 09, 2004 2:03 pm

HeavyMetal wrote:Don't be a smart-ass your not good at it. The real point was that you are pretentios not a trekky. Its far worse, but I guess I should use more common terms. Second theater screens made the switch and TVs remained. Tell me I am wrong all you want, but that changes nothing.
I'm sure you probably forgot that there's a slight difference between broadcast-based mass-production consumer television units and commercial film-based movie theaters as well. Do you have any concept of how the switch to HD is going and how incredibly long it's taking to phaze out the current standard? Do you have any idea how much more they would have to fuck up an NTSC signal to support a widescreen image format?
No, actually, you don't. Generally that means it's a good idea to stfu and stop trying to rationalize your ignorance.

And apparently you somehow haven't managed to catch on. My "pretension" is merely the result of your extreme gratitude to sysKin for being knowledged and then attepted verbal cockslap to Roz for being an ass. I was curious how you'd react to a little of both. That and I think you're a dumbass, but mostly the former.

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Post by NME » Sun May 09, 2004 5:31 pm

nil per os

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Info Anger hurt thog brain

Post by HeavyMetal » Sun May 09, 2004 11:38 pm

Photoshop in long hair, contacts, sunglasses, a guitar, and the physical result of exchanging bruises with karate classmates.

Yes I do realize how long its taking. Though technology works on an exponential rate. I never spoke of HD until someone else mentioned it.

The fact that they put film on one roll now helps a good bit. Used to they had to resplice it every time it was shipped. The projectionist used to have to do this. It’s a real pain to go through a movie one frame at a time.

The use of digital is making things a lot faster. Now things go more or less straight to DVD. If you look on old movies, including a lot of old cartoons originally shown in theaters, you can see the time markers flash in the corner. (drives me nuts because I always expect the tracking line from swapping reels.)

Everyone wants to zoom in on a screw up or two I made at first. Hell its been a while since I have actively used any of this crap. Everyone seems to have ignored any thing valid I said. I just can't combine info and anger it comes out so ass backwards I look back and think damn was that wrong why did I think one thing and write another.

I admit my knowledge of video formats is limited, but hell most PAL I have seen was converted. That kind of gives the impression of a shit format. My knowledge tends to lay in scene design and camera dynamics. Everyone steered away from that for damn sure. If I was a complete idiot my amvs would be horrible quality. (Granted I lower quality it for the sake of file size.)

You know this all started when I gave a brief half done bit of advice. I forget the exact frame rate of Pal and everyone got pissed. It was nothing against the UK. (Lots of Heavy Metal comes from there.) I simply don't prefer PAL. I should not I have said toss it though. That was a little misleading. I think people took that way to personal.

Then I got pissed. Rage is not something I can combine with info. (I admire your talent for it. No this is not sarcastic. There is few people I have wished I could have done that too.) I utterly blank out. I was giving advice based on AMV creation. Anime is NTSC. I have rarely encounter it on PAL. (Yes that is online.) I said not to use PAL. I failed to say that it was because of conversion and some horrid videos I have seen to PAL. I realize the old standards for AMVs was lower. These people made new AMVs far worse than even AMVs made in the days using two VCRs. Plus AV software (all that I know of anyway) edits by frame. So more frames more precise timing.

My initial statement on PAL was a little harsh and unexplained. However after that I tried to point out something good before saying why I don't like PAL. But everyone kept getting offended, then I go crazy and sound stupid. Then I ate my mouse. Trust me if thought it was so great I would chuck NTSC. I have no loyalties to anything really. As for the West Asia thing I generally use that as something good as I have some British friends. I was angry from bum bashing me for being from the US. I guess people just need someone to hate. Better me than someone who it would bother to much. Then Roz had to chime in to post only an insult. I wish I was from somewhere else. The US is generally the redneck(not the fun type) of the world. Then again I don't really like any society anyway, but that has to with a combination of sociological and philosophical reasons.

After that its like I said I can't function when I'm angry, which succeeds in making me look like a stupid ass and making things worse. I looked back at everything I have seen in PAL. It had been a number of years since I watched some of it. I realized that it was all low quality media (poor worn out tape for MST3K). That’s probably why I never realized it had better resolution. If had I may have gone import in the past, but like I said anime is NTSC anyway. I was new to the site and figured most people had AMVs in mind including those in the forum, whoops.

To think such a verbal slug fest started because I didn't explain the perspective I was judging from and then went off by two on a number. Well there was the interlacing thing too. I have to worry about that because I use software for vob conversion instead of breaking out ye old AV cables. Sides my old TV is RFU only anyway.

Sorry I exploded. Once I am angry I come off as really stupid. Its just kind of insulting when you have someone comment on only what you did wrong and ignore all else, then go for a personal attack. Then other people jump in only after I am pissed and can't think straight.

Oh don't bash my music unless you have sampled a great variety of different music styles and have a reason why not to like it.

Is it me or is that shelf look lopsided?

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Post by Tab. » Sun May 09, 2004 11:48 pm

NP PEACE LOLO
I just like to argue.

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