Small question about bitrates

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Small question about bitrates

Post by drdread » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:40 am

When I use VdubMOD to compress a file into Xvid, I see a status window, and one of the boxes says "Average Bitrate". What exactly is that? Is there a way you can change it, and if you can, why would you do that?

I read the page located at http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html but I don't quite understand. Is it just telling you the final size of the file or what?

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Post by drdread » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:50 am

Is there an edit button or anything? I can't seem to find it if there is one.

Anyway, I'm also confused about the First Pass and Second Pass stuff. How do you know to use which one? I am using First Pass and my file seems to work the way I want it to, but I don't even know what it does. I just configured Xvid the way it's shown on http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html .

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Post by Zaphod_Beeblebrox » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:51 am

when exactly is this when you're compressing? is it when you're configuring XviD or is it when XviD is actually compressing your video?
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Re: Small question about bitrates

Post by Scintilla » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:42 am

drdread wrote:When I use VdubMOD to compress a file into Xvid, I see a status window, and one of the boxes says "Average Bitrate". What exactly is that? Is there a way you can change it, and if you can, why would you do that?

I read the page located at http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html but I don't quite understand. Is it just telling you the final size of the file or what?
Average bitrate = average of how many bits are being used in any given time interval. Usually measured in kilobits per second.

Higher bitrate = bigger files and (up to a point) higher quality.
Lower bitrate = smaller files and lower quality.

You would want to increase the bitrate if you're seeing too many artifacts and blocks for your liking, or decrease it if you need a smaller file.

(Oftentimes, a good idea for getting better visual quality with smaller filesizes is to reduce the resolution.)
drdread wrote:Is there an edit button or anything? I can't seem to find it if there is one.
No. Only on the AMV Contests, Anime Conventions, and Heads Up! boards.
drdread wrote:Anyway, I'm also confused about the First Pass and Second Pass stuff. How do you know to use which one? I am using First Pass and my file seems to work the way I want it to, but I don't even know what it does. I just configured Xvid the way it's shown on http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html .
In the two-pass method of encoding, the first pass is used to analyze the video to be encoded and generate a log file, which is then referred to in the second pass to improve the distribution of bits.

Don't ever choose "2-pass (second pass)" unless you've just done a "2-pass (first pass)" <i>on the same video</i>.

If you've configured the XviD encoder options the way the guide page tells you to, then your 1st pass should have been encoded with constant quantizer 2 (and 4 for B-frames, if you used any), which produces the highest visual quality you can get "without stupidly big files".
If you find that the 1st-pass file is too big, you can run a second pass and specify a desired filesize/bitrate.
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