Update for a prodigal child

[Gepetto]

Hello all, though you don't remember me I've missed you.

I've been away from AMVs and video editing in general for two years, give or take, and have decided to take my recent purchase of a new computer as an excuse to come back.

Thus, I ask of the experts that still lurk around these forums for a little compendium of what I might like to install on my brand-new XP installation in the sense of encoders/decoders, muxers/demuxers, AviSynth, VirtualDub/Mod/whatever's-hot-now and other such free and helpful utilities that I can get online without breaking any laws. Encoders for Linux/BSD, if you know any, would also be good, and links if you have them.

Around the time I left, there was talk of a total repackaging of the AMVapp, as well as the impending release of AviSynth 3, which would allegedly support UNIX-based systems like OS X as well as Windows. How did that turn out, if it did turn out at all?

Thanks in advance for all replies, and for those of you who feel the urge to suggest that I ***ing Google it, lurk moar, etc, I ask for a little patience. The "crapware/useful stuff" ratio is over 9000 and it would take me countless hours to find out if there are any codec packs that don't suck and if my old ffdshow + matroska pack combo is still enough to decode everything, not to mention all the other little apps I might be missing out on.

Cheers,
Paulo.

[Zarxrax]

the impending release of AviSynth 3

LOLZ

Not much is changed, encoding-wise x264 kicks everything else's ass 10 times over, and for playback you can get cccp, which is just ffdshow+splitters and crap.

[Kariudo]

amvapp v3 is pretty good. You can get it from the new eadfag

Avisynth 3 hasn't really progressed much. Last I heard, there was a beta open for anyone to try but unless you write your own avisynth filters it won't be of much use to you (since v2.5.x plugins don't work with V3)

CCCP is highly recommended so you can play h.264 files (which have now pretty much replaced xvid as xvid replaced mpeg)
the amvapp v3 pretty much takes care of everything else you'll need.

Unfortunately, I'm not too sure about Linux/BSD encoders.
I believe x.264 works in Linux, but if you don't like CLI encoding I don't know a GUI for x.264 on Linux

[Qyot27]

As far as I know, AviSynth 3 is:

A) dead
B) only available if you compile it yourself, and the source filters and whatnot are limited; I've not tried doing anything with it
C) you'd get far more benefit running AviSynth 2.5 under WINE

I'm one of those CCCP naysayers, as [again, correct me if I'm wrong here] unless this has changed, the ffdshow install in it does not include the VFW interface, which is necessary if you want easy* access to HuffYUV's YV12 implementation, or the ability to encode MJPEG for FREE.

As far as ffdshow goes, you'll want to use ffdshow-tryouts:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=173941
(if it times out, run it through myproxysite.org or something; for some stupid reason that fixes it)

And Haali's Media Splitter:
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/

That should cover just about everything, unless you're looking at the RealMedia DirectShow splitter. As usual, installing XviD, HuffYUV, and Lagarith is best left separately, but those are covered by the AMVapp.

*sure, you can encode/decode it with ffmpeg or mencoder, but that doesn't help much with integration to other Windows apps

[Mosc]

I'm one of those CCCP naysayers, as [again, correct me if I'm wrong here] unless this has changed, the ffdshow install in it does not include the VFW interface, which is necessary if you want easy* access to HuffYUV's YV12 implementation, or the ability to encode MJPEG for FREE.

CCCP has included FFDShow's VfW part for over two and a half years, though all its decoding stuff is disabled by default.

[Gepetto]

the new eadfag

Hooray, I can still tell people to Read <a href=http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech31/>ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>!


Well, from your replies it seems that nothing has changed at all... All is easier for me, then.

As for AviSynth under Wine, I actually intend to use it in Windows, since my (expensive) Premiere Pro won't even install in Wine. It's the only reason I have Windows at all on this new computer, since the games I like all play nicely with Wine. So, in other words, I should just proceed the same way I would have two years ago.

Thanks everyone for your replies. It's good to be back, and strange too... your avatars are still the same, Zarx and Qyot. I remember. *dramatic music*

[Gepetto]

the new eadfag

Hooray, I can still tell people to Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>!

Still no edit button... How old is this wordfilter, anyways? I *meant* READFAG!

[Kariudo]

it's been a while, don't remember when it popped up though.

[Corran]

you don't remember me

I don't know you, but I do remember you.

How old is this wordfilter, anyways? I *meant* READFAG!

I believe AD made it, so sometime before he left in 2005.

[Gepetto]

I don't know you, but I do remember you.

Really? Wow. Thanks!

I believe AD made it, so sometime before he left in 2005.

Funny, I don't remember it ever being here. Oh well, that's unimportant.

P.S. Your avatar has changed.