Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

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Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Bauzi » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:18 pm

Hey there,

*sigh*... That was just a day where I thought: Real DirectX 10 would be handy or even this new DirectX 11. It would make some things smoother. So I tried a workaround for XP to use DX10 (yes it really works), but that wasn't really effective. So maybe it's time to get a new operating system? Maybe... I just know that Vista blows. I really don't want to give the OS a big part of my RAM, CPU etc. for some eye candy.

However... there is this new Win7. That might be usefull! At least I heard some good things about it, but let's listen to what amv editors have to say about it, because when it comes down to it: My laptop is mainly for watching videos, playing emulators, some games, but in general for amv editing.

Does the usual amv work on a WinXP machine work as good on a Win7 machine? Tools, etc.

At leat I know two advantages of Win7:
-Premiere Pro and AE in x64
-DirectX 10 and 11 (ok that's not really amv related...)

What do you think? Is a switch usefull? For god's sake: XP is almost a decade old!!! :|
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by mirkosp » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:25 pm

There's a thread similar to this in the donator's forum, and from that thread it turns out that win7 is an awesome editing machine, or so it seems. As for directX 11, you do need a gpu that supports them, too, so that's not just OS related.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Bauzi » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:30 pm

mirkosp wrote:There's a thread similar to this in the donator's forum, and from that thread it turns out that win7 is an awesome editing machine, or so it seems. As for directX 11, you do need a gpu that supports them, too, so that's not just OS related.
My graphic card is quite new (Nvidia 9800M GT) so I think it supports it. If not: Whatever. There is still improvement with DX10.

Eh... this Windows 7 is quite expensive. Meh. What were the advantages of a Win Pro version? I never really got the difference :|
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Pwolf » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:51 pm

directx10 or even 11 wont help with editing. all its good for is gaming. There are no direct x video cards out anyway...

I've been using the 64bit Windows 7 RC at work for months now and it's so stable i haven't moved to the RTM (we have a site license already for the final version). I've done some limited video work on it with no problems tho. But really for editing the main thing you need to concern yourself with is hardware and stability. More RAM is great but you need a 64bit OS to use more then 4gb properly. I loath vista with a passion for it's UI and security but I really don't know how stable it is. XP 64bit is horrible. So if I was going to choose a 64bit windows OS, i would go with Windows 7. It's stable, it's fast, and it just works.

If you are worried about price, and you're in college, you can get a copy of Windows 7 Home or Pro for $30:

here's a chart of the different versions and what they offer. The main reasons I would get Pro are because I want to be able to RDP into my computer from work and also Windows XP mode for what ever reason I might need it.

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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Pwolf » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:54 pm

Pwolf wrote:There are no direct x 11 video cards out anyway...
fixed >.>

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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Bauzi » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:03 pm

Pwolf wrote:
Pwolf wrote:There are no direct x 11 video cards out anyway...
fixed >.>
Oh seriously? Eh... I don't get how some people already could work with it so far. :|
directx10 or even 11 wont help with editing. all its good for is gaming. There are no direct x video cards out anyway...
I know, but thx for pointing out ;)
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Kariudo » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:06 pm

Pwolf wrote:
Pwolf wrote:There are no direct x 11 video cards out anyway...
fixed >.>
the ATI HD5870 supports DX11, still doesn't matter for editing though
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Pwolf » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:08 pm

i didn't realize the $30 offer was only for US students, sorry.

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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by Pwolf » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:09 pm

Kariudo wrote:
Pwolf wrote:
Pwolf wrote:There are no direct x 11 video cards out anyway...
fixed >.>
the ATI HD5870 supports DX11, still doesn't matter for editing though
mah bad, i'm a little behind i guess...

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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Post by NeoQuixotic » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:13 pm

Is Windows 7 better? Yes! Vista is better than XP too. Vista wasn't bad, people just had a freak out when a whole bunch of things changed. Windows 7 IS Vista. Vista was version 6.0, Win 7 is 6.1. And let's not even get into the many possible ways it could be called the 7th version. As for the higher system requirements, people need to cry some more. Any OS that has had a major upgrade has always become more system intensive due to the higher end hardware available. Basically, since computers get faster, why not add more features and functionality with the new power available? So yeah, Vista sucks on an 6 year old computer, NO DUH! Now Vista was a bit resource hungry then it should of been, but with SP2, it really isn't that bad. If the logic of every OS should be more efficient than the last, then Vista/Win 7 should use less resources than Windows 3.1! When Apple released OS X, people whined and moaned of how slow and bloated it was compared to OS 9. Yes optimization can occur, that is what Win 7 basically is (the same with Snow Leopard). Windows 7 is not a major change of the underlying OS, it's just a tweaking with some added new features. And when you run into issues with applications and drivers, it's generally not the operating system's fault, blame the creators of the apps and drivers for not making it compatible. Microsoft changed a lot of things to make things work better and more secure than XP ever did, but most companies haven't transitioned well due to laziness. Yeah, UAC is annoying, but you can tweak it or turn it off completely if you really don't want it. Most programs ask for administrator rights even when they really don't need them. If developers would start coding their software to work in standard user mode you would never even see a UAC prompt. I do find the UAC prompts for file deletion and moving a bit much though, then again I tweak it, which is easily done. Generally, UAC and security software like an anti-virus is a last line of defense anyways. All that really matters is being aware of what you are doing and using common sense.

Will Windows 7 make your computing experience amazing? No. So if XP is working fine for you on your laptop, then stick with it. I find that when a new version of Windows comes out, it's probably time to buy a new computer too. Although, think about upgrading to Windows 7 if your laptop is recent, like the last 2-3 years. However, upgrading laptops can be a bit of a pain if the manufactuer doesn't supply compatible drivers and some of the custom software laptops sometimes use. Upgrading on a desktop is generally easier, but then again upgrading can be annoying overall hence why I suggest just get a new computer all together.
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