Good Live-Action Codec?

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Post by doomhammerofdoom » Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:28 pm

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Post by Ashyukun » Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:13 pm

trythil wrote:- TMPGenc provides different quantization matrices optimized for cel animation.
I've seen those- but I almost never use them when it comes to AMV work. Very early on it was explained to me that the animation matrices were far more optimized for a largely still background with only a minor motion in the foreground- but with what we tend to do with increasingly shorter clips and faster cuts, the default matrix actually works better. Maybe one of these days I'll stop being lazy and actually test this out....
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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:53 pm

Ashyukun wrote:I've seen those- but I almost never use them when it comes to AMV work. Very early on it was explained to me that the animation matrices were far more optimized for a largely still background with only a minor motion in the foreground- but with what we tend to do with increasingly shorter clips and faster cuts, the default matrix actually works better. Maybe one of these days I'll stop being lazy and actually test this out....
I don't see how motion has anything to do with a quantisation matirx.

The idea of a CG/Animation matrix is to realise that these things have sharp edges and thus the higher quantisers (bottom right of a matrix) are just as important for making those edges detailed.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:57 pm

I've been toying with alternate Matrix set ups, dispite the fact that the concept is a bit beyond my grasp, I just search online for alternate matrix values people have spin out.

The CG/Cel animation matrix preset for Tmpgenc does seem to yield slightly better quality, I assume it's designed to be better at 'line' art, with wide sections of the same color, online live action which has a lot of constantly changing colors and shapes.

Of course, there's a fair ammount of high end anime with so much motion such advances, or the 'Low Motion' setting for Divx4 wouldn't benifit much.

Now if only I could a decoder for Divx that utalized all that 'radeon post processing' crap for transcoding for like, Vdub or something. :\
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Post by DJ_Izumi » Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:58 pm

And yes, I am dealing with low bitrate Mpeg-2. 1500kbit is it's average.
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