vegas 4 is killing me

bum · Post by **bum** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:31 am

well, its not killing me but it is killing my time. it seems to take absolutely forever to export a video, no mater what format and/or setings i use. as in, its exporting at between 2-4 frames a second. in otehr words, if i want to preview a amv im making (because when ya preview it in vegas in it lags and skips a bit) then i might as well go out and rent a movie or 2 while its exporting, and if i wana combine an avi and an ac3 then i should go to space and travel at neer the speed of light so i would only have to wait a few minutes (thats physics by the way). seriosly though, it cant have anything to do with my hardware because im runing an athlon2600xp, 512ddr333, on a 64meg gf4 (which im upgrading to a fx next week). can anyone please tell me what the hell is wrong and what im supose to do to make vegas export at a half decent rate ?

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:42 am

For comparison, I just rendered most of my current (Vegas 4) project. It's a simple romance vid, so it's mostly long clips with slow crossfades, some speed adjustment, and some panning. There's an 11 second dream sequence with b&w and light ray effects...this takes almost half the total rendering time.

So, for three minutes of timeline, it took about 11 minutes to render, or approx. 8-9 frames per second. This is typical in my experience. With many layered effects, less than 5 fps rendering would not surprise me. I'm using a 2.53 GHz P4, by the way.

Are you sure that Premiere is that much faster, or does it just seem that way due to the pre-rendering that is done during editing? (I'm guessing here; I have some, but very little experience with Premiere).

aznfs · Post by **aznfs** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:35 am

if you are going to two different codecs it takes forever, a lot of effects take forever, but i would rather take forever on vegas, than wait for premiere to say *rendering stopped after unexcepted sh*t 3:47 hrs.*

*grrrrr*

bum · Post by **bum** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:28 am

well in only trying to render about 75 seconds of footage and ive only got a few sequences which ive slowed down and one that ive slowd down and added medium bluring. i tried converting it to a low quality wmv to preview it and i find out its gona take fuck ages

danielwang · Post by **danielwang** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:59 pm

Premiere? Oh bofh NO!

* pressed the "0" button on his numberic keypad *

* strange mouse cursor *

* an hour later *

The video plays without audio, doesn't do it the right way I put it in, and it STOPS when you click anywhere else.

I'd rather use Final CutYourSalary Pro

bum · Post by **bum** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:39 pm

actualy i havent had much problems when i used premier. only that it was kinda ugly and not as intutive as vegas

. so um, is anyone gona actualy help me out here ? it seems that im the only one with theys problems

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 5:13 am

I repeated the render that I described above as a "28.8 Kbps" WMV8 file. It took two minutes for the whole stretch...about 45 rendered frames per second. The result looked and sounded like junk.

I did it again as a "256 Kbps" WMV8: took 6.5 minutes, or 14 rendered frames per second. This file actually looks nice, but still not quite as good as DV.

I'm not sure what else I can tell you. Looks like you have enough RAM. What about spare hard disk space? (And de-fragged?)

King_Cold · Post by **King_Cold** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:38 pm

Sorry about the other time. I kinda misunderstand stuff at 3 am.

Well, when I wanna preview my work I render it with PICVideo Lossless JPEG Codec at quality draft, and my audio pcm uncomporessed or mpeg-layer3. For example, it took me ~24 minutes to render a 6min AMV with those settings. You do need more hd space for this. With this example the file size of my rendered file was 1.72gig.

I found that this was the fastest way.
And I also found that any effects wish uses transparency slows down the rendering drastically.

King_Cold · Post by **King_Cold** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:40 pm

Sorry about the other time. I kinda misunderstand stuff at 3 am.

Well, when I wanna preview my work I render it with PICVideo Lossless JPEG Codec at quality draft, and my audio pcm uncomporessed or mpeg-layer3. For example, it took me ~24 minutes to render a 6min AMV with those settings. You do need more hd space for this. With this example the file size of my rendered file was 1.72gig.

I found that this was the fastest way.
And I also found that any effects wish uses transparency slows down the rendering drastically.

aznfs · Post by **aznfs** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:32 am

hey nothing is more retarded from going from a msv2 codec to dv on vegas... frame by frame 1 frame = 1 second *cries*

why go from a really lossy codec to a high quality lossy codec like dv? the answer... *stupid* *stupid* you can only record to dv tape in dv.... I wasted so many hours of my life...