restricting the fade to colour envelope (vegas)
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Angry Angel
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bum
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check out -url=http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... ight=piano] this thread [/url] where me and taran both dietailed two seperate ways of doing piano keys. and as allways, experiment. experiment alot. and try to beter understand the tools in vegas. the help file helps. seriosly
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bum
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gah, screwed up the link
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=39399
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=39399
with the fade to colour envelope, you can set the top and bottom colout by right clicking on the track header (or whatever its called). what i usualy do is just set the bottom colour to 100% opacity. with the whole screen thing, its actualy the way its supose to work, and it only does it on the timeline its used in and any timelines under it. timelines above the envelope are unaffected. its actualy how it ssupose to work, not a bug.TaranT wrote: The Fade to Color envelope only changes the mask track to all-black or all-white. And it wipes out the whole screen, not just the track that's being masked. That's either a bug or some kind of feature that I don't understand.
But the Composite Level envelope gets it done.
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TaranT
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It just hit me tonight that I made that previous post more complicated than it needed to be. If you're using masks for the keys and you want the keys to fade out, you just have to fade the clip(s) that is being masked (child track). If the clip is gone, it doesn't matter what the masks are doing.
I tried it now with the standard fade, the composite level track envelope, and the fade to color track envelope - after setting the bottom color to fully transparent like you suggested. Or the top color transparent after pulling the envelope to the top. Either way works.
I've never used this fade to color before. It could be interesting....
I tried it now with the standard fade, the composite level track envelope, and the fade to color track envelope - after setting the bottom color to fully transparent like you suggested. Or the top color transparent after pulling the envelope to the top. Either way works.
I've never used this fade to color before. It could be interesting....
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bum
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well, after trying prety much everything except creating a seperate timeline for each piano key, ive given up and just used something different for the scene. anyway, in dietaile what i was trying to do. two clips, one as the background, and the other as the forground which i took the footage of for the piano keys. the screen is split into 5 equal sized rectangles to cover the screen, with each part being a piano key. from left to right (or right to left)
. i want to have one key apear, stay on the screen as the key next to it apears and so on till all 5 keys cover the screen. and i wanted each key to quickly fade in (which would be easy if i could do the rest of the effect) . get what im trying to do ?
. i want to have one key apear, stay on the screen as the key next to it apears and so on till all 5 keys cover the screen. and i wanted each key to quickly fade in (which would be easy if i could do the rest of the effect) . get what im trying to do ?
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TaranT
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I'm not 100% clear on what you trying to do, but it sounds like it's not strictly piano keys. Sounds more like a type of scene transition in five steps. For something like that, this should give you some clues...
(This is going to look wordy, but it's to help any newbies who may be listening in.)
1. Open a new Vegas project and insert three video tracks.
2. Make the top two parent-child by clicking that right-angle arrow at the far left end of track 2.
3. Drop your foreground clip on track 2 at time=0.
4. Drop your background clip on track 3 at time=0.
5. Select the Media Generators tab down at the bottom of the screen (type alt-9 if it's not there). Drag the preset called Split Screen to track 1 at time=0. Leave its settings the way they are (specifically, width=0.5 and height=1.0).
6. Next, drag another copy of Split Screen to track 1 and locate it so it's overlapping some of the tail end of the first copy. Leave this one's settings alone except set width=0.7.
7. If the clips on tracks 2 and 3 are not long enough, pull them wider until they are at least well past the transition on track 1.
From here you can play from just before the transition and see how the second rectangle (width=0.7 - 0.5 = 0.2%) fades in.
I used the checkerboard preset just as a quick way to make a couple of masks. For the real thing, I'd make five black & white still pictures. The first pic would have the left 20% (top to bottom) white while the remaining 80% was black. In the second pic, the ratio would be 40% white and 60% black. And so on until the last pic was all white.
On the mask track, I would put these pics in order (1-5) with each one overlapping the previous one. This would do a left-to-right transition. You could use the same pics to do a right-to-left by placing them in opposite order (5-1) and applying the Invert effect (with a 100% setting).
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If you don't want the transition to happen from left to right, but in some other order - like 1-4-3-5-2 - then the basic technique is the same. It's just that you make different pictures. If your picture editor handles objects, start by making an object that is the white bar (20% width, 100% height). Drop it on an all-black picture and locate it at the far left. Save the pic as mask_1. Then add a second copy of the same object to that same pic and locate it at position 4. The pic now has two white bars on it - save it as mask_2. Add the third bar at position 3 and make sure it contacts the bar at position 4. Save as mask_3. Repeat for the bar at position 5 (far right) and save as mask_4. Finally, mask_5 is an all-white pic.
Locate these on the mask track in order (mask_1 through mask_5) and overlap each as desired.
(This is going to look wordy, but it's to help any newbies who may be listening in.)
1. Open a new Vegas project and insert three video tracks.
2. Make the top two parent-child by clicking that right-angle arrow at the far left end of track 2.
3. Drop your foreground clip on track 2 at time=0.
4. Drop your background clip on track 3 at time=0.
5. Select the Media Generators tab down at the bottom of the screen (type alt-9 if it's not there). Drag the preset called Split Screen to track 1 at time=0. Leave its settings the way they are (specifically, width=0.5 and height=1.0).
6. Next, drag another copy of Split Screen to track 1 and locate it so it's overlapping some of the tail end of the first copy. Leave this one's settings alone except set width=0.7.
7. If the clips on tracks 2 and 3 are not long enough, pull them wider until they are at least well past the transition on track 1.
From here you can play from just before the transition and see how the second rectangle (width=0.7 - 0.5 = 0.2%) fades in.
I used the checkerboard preset just as a quick way to make a couple of masks. For the real thing, I'd make five black & white still pictures. The first pic would have the left 20% (top to bottom) white while the remaining 80% was black. In the second pic, the ratio would be 40% white and 60% black. And so on until the last pic was all white.
On the mask track, I would put these pics in order (1-5) with each one overlapping the previous one. This would do a left-to-right transition. You could use the same pics to do a right-to-left by placing them in opposite order (5-1) and applying the Invert effect (with a 100% setting).
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If you don't want the transition to happen from left to right, but in some other order - like 1-4-3-5-2 - then the basic technique is the same. It's just that you make different pictures. If your picture editor handles objects, start by making an object that is the white bar (20% width, 100% height). Drop it on an all-black picture and locate it at the far left. Save the pic as mask_1. Then add a second copy of the same object to that same pic and locate it at position 4. The pic now has two white bars on it - save it as mask_2. Add the third bar at position 3 and make sure it contacts the bar at position 4. Save as mask_3. Repeat for the bar at position 5 (far right) and save as mask_4. Finally, mask_5 is an all-white pic.
Locate these on the mask track in order (mask_1 through mask_5) and overlap each as desired.
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bum
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yeah what im trying to do is basicaly a mix between a transition and a piano key. more specificaly (and stupidly enough i just realised this as i read through your last post) 3d cascade transition with a modified left to right preset. what i wanted to do however was sink each key seperately, so they wouldnt all go on evenly. the best way to do that would be the transition progress envelope, but thats in vegas5 and im using 4. however i may be able to do it by puting in a few keyframes into the transition. anyway, thanks alot for that reply, its bound to help me one way or another.