Ok, this is officially my n00b post. I was wondering if there are any good guides on the internet to Premier 6.0. As a student I have almost no money for anything, let alone non-vital books. Also, I doubt that most bookstores would still stock Premier 6.0 guides. I just need some really basic help.
1. Basic effect adding. I add an effect, but if I try to preview it or export the specific clip with the effect to see how it looks without rendering the whole video I just get the original clip with no changes. There has to be an easier way. Here's a specific example. I put the stobe effect on a 30 second clip and tell it to strobe red with 100% opacity every tenth of a second. The clip looks normal when I preview it, export it, and "print to video." I've tried this with various effects, it is not specific to strobe.
2. Time effects. If I want to make an effect change throughout a clip, say that in the former example I wanted to make the opacity of the strobes gradually change from 100% to 0% during the thirty second clip so that they would eventually fade out. How do I do that?
3. I'm less confused about transitions, because they seem to be pretty self-explanatory, but humor me. How specifically do I make a transition from one clip to another?
Ok, Question 1 and 2 are the big ones. Rendering/Ripping/Doing stuff like that/clipping in premier I'm fine with. It's the basic little Premier things that get me. ^_^
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i heard premiere 6.0 comes with a manual
otherwise http://www.google.com/search?q=premiere+tutorial
otherwise http://www.google.com/search?q=premiere+tutorial
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Imaginos
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Ok Ill take a stab at these...
#1 -- I played with you example of the strobe effect.. 1st the % number in thoption is blend not opacity so for a full red on the scence that should be zero not 100. The other settings are strobe duration
(how long the color lasts) and stobe period (the gap between strobes) I think i got the effect you were looking for by goin with SD: .10 SP:.20
Note that when I do it this way i can see it when I preview.. I suspect it may be a misunderstanding of the % setting at the top giving you grief. as for other effects I would like to know which ones as it could be something like this, if none of them work you may consider re-installing. In general though I have found that what I preview is what I export.
#2 This is a bit more tricky.. I don't know if this is the best way to do this (I'm always open to suggestions
) but here is how I handle this. I start with the noraml clip on track 1, I copy and paste a duplicte of the clip on track 2. I apply the effect to the clip on track 2. Then I use the opacity rubberbands (the red line below the clips) to adjust the opacity of the clip with the effect. So in your example I would set the rubberband all the way at the top at the start and all the way at the bottom at the end.
You can build some intresting results by using mutilple tracks (layers) with this trick.
#3 Simple as it seems if you are in A-B mode simply put on track on 1A and the other on 1B and click and drag the Tranistion to the transition track between them. If you are using single track mode drag and drop the transistion into where the 2 clips meet on the timeline.
As for sources of information I'm sure a google search like mentioned above would help. As far as books I had no trouble finding books, mind you I got one on 6.5 when i waqs using 6 but i have used both and they are enough alike that the book still works just fine.
#1 -- I played with you example of the strobe effect.. 1st the % number in thoption is blend not opacity so for a full red on the scence that should be zero not 100. The other settings are strobe duration
(how long the color lasts) and stobe period (the gap between strobes) I think i got the effect you were looking for by goin with SD: .10 SP:.20
Note that when I do it this way i can see it when I preview.. I suspect it may be a misunderstanding of the % setting at the top giving you grief. as for other effects I would like to know which ones as it could be something like this, if none of them work you may consider re-installing. In general though I have found that what I preview is what I export.
#2 This is a bit more tricky.. I don't know if this is the best way to do this (I'm always open to suggestions
) but here is how I handle this. I start with the noraml clip on track 1, I copy and paste a duplicte of the clip on track 2. I apply the effect to the clip on track 2. Then I use the opacity rubberbands (the red line below the clips) to adjust the opacity of the clip with the effect. So in your example I would set the rubberband all the way at the top at the start and all the way at the bottom at the end. You can build some intresting results by using mutilple tracks (layers) with this trick.
#3 Simple as it seems if you are in A-B mode simply put on track on 1A and the other on 1B and click and drag the Tranistion to the transition track between them. If you are using single track mode drag and drop the transistion into where the 2 clips meet on the timeline.
As for sources of information I'm sure a google search like mentioned above would help. As far as books I had no trouble finding books, mind you I got one on 6.5 when i waqs using 6 but i have used both and they are enough alike that the book still works just fine.
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DarkAlex
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Thanks
Thanks for the info. I'm still not sure if my effects are working or why they don't export with the clips, but I'll probably figure it out with time, or I'll die, whichever comes first. I recently started the formidable "College Application Process" so I'll probably not be editing too much until the end of this month. Then again, who knows, I might finish my application tonight! Anyway, thanks again for the info, it was a lot of help.
Question #2 is still huge for me and somehow I think that Premier has to have a built in change over time option. If any people think they can clarify these already worthy answers then please feel free to do so.
Question #2 is still huge for me and somehow I think that Premier has to have a built in change over time option. If any people think they can clarify these already worthy answers then please feel free to do so.
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DarkAlex
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Inspired
This reply inspired me to look at the specific settings I have on the clip.
Here they are: Blend with Original: 37%, Strobe Duration (.31 sec), Stobe Period (.14 sec), Random Strobe Probability: 0% (I've varied it up to 50% and still haven't seen anything). My Stobe "Operates on Color Only" and the Operator is "Darker." Here is a picture of the effect when it works. It works sometimes when I change a setting, but only for the frame that I changed the setting during, and if I do anything after I change the setting it goes back to looking as it did before I changed the setting. I exported a single frame after changing the setting, in case you were wondering how I got the picture.
If it matters at all here is some other information about the clip:
Because I edited 6 DVDs worth of material I ended up with 6 Video Tracks. Because I haven't organized anything yet this is in the 6th track. The clip is about 10 seconds long and encoded with PICVideo MJPEG shareware Codec.
PS. who knows when my Geocities account is going to hit its bandwith limit, when it does, I'm sorry.
Here they are: Blend with Original: 37%, Strobe Duration (.31 sec), Stobe Period (.14 sec), Random Strobe Probability: 0% (I've varied it up to 50% and still haven't seen anything). My Stobe "Operates on Color Only" and the Operator is "Darker." Here is a picture of the effect when it works. It works sometimes when I change a setting, but only for the frame that I changed the setting during, and if I do anything after I change the setting it goes back to looking as it did before I changed the setting. I exported a single frame after changing the setting, in case you were wondering how I got the picture.
If it matters at all here is some other information about the clip:
Because I edited 6 DVDs worth of material I ended up with 6 Video Tracks. Because I haven't organized anything yet this is in the 6th track. The clip is about 10 seconds long and encoded with PICVideo MJPEG shareware Codec.
PS. who knows when my Geocities account is going to hit its bandwith limit, when it does, I'm sorry.
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Imaginos
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Well itried to replicate your settings. As is they dont work like you'd want. On my system that results in all the frames being red. I think i now understand the strobe duration settings
Think of the stobe effect as being a two part event Part A is the clip with the color overlay part B is the normal view. Now the strobe period is the length of the entire 2 part event. Stobe duration is the amount of that time spent in part A (colored).
A Visual aid is below (SD = Strobe Duration SP=Strobe period)
|----Color----|---Normal----|----color----|--normal---|
|----SD-------|----------------|----SD------|--------------|
|---------------SP-------------|-------------SP-------------|
So in your case you want to reverse those 2 values, because to have any effect strobe duration must be shorter than strobe period.
As for the other info. Im pretty much testing with the same ( 10 sec registered version of the codec) I moved my clip to track 2 and it still worked the same. I dont think any of that should have any effect.
The thing is with the settings you mentioned it should have an effect when you export (the whole clip should look red like your single frame with the settings you mentioned). I would now lokok into how you are rendereing your sections. What i am doing for the testing is the following:
1) Apply the effect to the clip.
2) make sure the clip is in the 'work area' The work area is the section of the timeline that has the yellow bar above at the very top of the timeline window (above the time numbers)
3) Render the work area by hitting Enter in the timeline window, or right clicking the timeline and selecting "Render Work Area"
The Rendering staus box comes up until the render is complete (On my machine the 9 sec clip takes about 40 seconds)
I can then view the preivew and see the effect.
When I export the clip I use file Export --> Movie and the export looks like the preview.
One other thing to check.. I noticed that in the Keyframe & Rendering section of the Project Settings there is a checkbox for "Ignore Video Effects", this of course should be unchecked. Having it checked eliminates the display of all video effects for both the preivew and the exported movie.
As for the adjust over time on an effect (question #2). I know some effects have this like the Motion effect, but the way i described is the only way I know to do that for the others. If you find somethine please let me know and i'll do the same for you.
Thanks for the questions they gave me a chance to dg around in Premeier and get a better understanding of how some things work.
Think of the stobe effect as being a two part event Part A is the clip with the color overlay part B is the normal view. Now the strobe period is the length of the entire 2 part event. Stobe duration is the amount of that time spent in part A (colored).
A Visual aid is below (SD = Strobe Duration SP=Strobe period)
|----Color----|---Normal----|----color----|--normal---|
|----SD-------|----------------|----SD------|--------------|
|---------------SP-------------|-------------SP-------------|
So in your case you want to reverse those 2 values, because to have any effect strobe duration must be shorter than strobe period.
As for the other info. Im pretty much testing with the same ( 10 sec registered version of the codec) I moved my clip to track 2 and it still worked the same. I dont think any of that should have any effect.
The thing is with the settings you mentioned it should have an effect when you export (the whole clip should look red like your single frame with the settings you mentioned). I would now lokok into how you are rendereing your sections. What i am doing for the testing is the following:
1) Apply the effect to the clip.
2) make sure the clip is in the 'work area' The work area is the section of the timeline that has the yellow bar above at the very top of the timeline window (above the time numbers)
3) Render the work area by hitting Enter in the timeline window, or right clicking the timeline and selecting "Render Work Area"
The Rendering staus box comes up until the render is complete (On my machine the 9 sec clip takes about 40 seconds)
I can then view the preivew and see the effect.
When I export the clip I use file Export --> Movie and the export looks like the preview.
One other thing to check.. I noticed that in the Keyframe & Rendering section of the Project Settings there is a checkbox for "Ignore Video Effects", this of course should be unchecked. Having it checked eliminates the display of all video effects for both the preivew and the exported movie.
As for the adjust over time on an effect (question #2). I know some effects have this like the Motion effect, but the way i described is the only way I know to do that for the others. If you find somethine please let me know and i'll do the same for you.
Thanks for the questions they gave me a chance to dg around in Premeier and get a better understanding of how some things work.
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DarkAlex
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No problem
Whoa, thanks again. I'll be trying all this out when I get home tonight. I'll be sure to pm you if I find out anything about the time effects.
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ChronoWraith
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There is an easier way with less video clips needed for the timed effect, just use key frames. There are some effects which do not support keyframing and those you can adjust the way suggested above. For an explanation on keyframing read the help files and tutorials included with your copy of premiere
hope this helps, also experimenting is the best way to learn
-Chronowraith
hope this helps, also experimenting is the best way to learn
-Chronowraith