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DivX / XviD problem

Post by MightyMoose22 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:23 pm

Sorry to be a complete newbie retard.

I have my vid edited, finished and saved as a DV-avi.
I also have an avs script in which my vid is cropped, cleaned and smoothed.
I have played this script in VirtualDubMod with no problems.
Now, I've compressed this script to an mpg with TMPGEnc and it's fine, but I would like something with a slight bit better quality encode.

I tried using VirtualDubMod with XviD 2 pass, as is in EADFAG, but am having trouble playing the avi.
EADFAG wrote:Checking out the First Pass Encode
At the end of the encode, you should load the avi into your favourite media player and see how it looks. If you've followed the guides diligently then everything should look great.
(In order of my trying them...)
Media Player Classic gives me fine audio but a plain black screen, albeit in the correct size & proportions.
Media Player 9 gives me an error message and refuses to play at all.
VLC gives me nothing but audio and a scroll bar, suggesting it's not reading as a video file at all.

So I tried encoding with DivX instead, but encountered all the same problems.

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling both codecs (as well as 3ivX) but still without any luck.

I have seen http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... short.html and have downloaded all suggested programs & codecs etc. to no help.


So, yeah. I've tried everything I can think of, everything I can see in the guide, and everything I've seen suggested in this part of the forum...

Can anyone suggest anything else I could try to get them damn vids to play?

Thanks in advance.
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Post by GloryQuestor » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:27 pm

Try converting your DV-AVI footage into non-DV AVI format (in my Premiere Elements program, it's called "Microsoft AVI" format) and see if it works for you then. :)
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Post by Scintilla » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:33 pm

Try opening the XviD/DivX AVI in VirtualDubMod. If it works there, then it's a problem with whatever DShow decoder you currently have set to decode the video.
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Post by MightyMoose22 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:49 pm

To GloryQuestor:-

Any suggestions as to which format to convert to?

I've already got myself an uncompressed avi @ a few gig & a huffyuv avi @ a few hundred meg.

Both play fine as is, but neither will give me a working DivX variant encode, which leads me to believe that if it was a problem with the encode it'd be a problem with DivX/XviD/3ivX/VirtualDubMod rather than the source file(s).
But EADFAG wrote:Other playback problems may occur if you don't have an up-to-date DivX decoder installed or your decoding settings are in some way messed up. This is usually not a problem with the encode.
Which leads me to believe it's probably mostly a playback issue, and not about encoding at all.




And Scintilla:-

Nope. All I get in VirtualDubMod is the same fine-audio-and-correctly-cropped-black-screen that I get in Media Player Classic. Any ideas?



Thanks again guys.
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Post by GloryQuestor » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:02 pm

MightyMoose22 wrote:To GloryQuestor:-

Any suggestions as to which format to convert to?

I've already got myself an uncompressed avi @ a few gig & a huffyuv avi @ a few hundred meg.

Both play fine as is, but neither will give me a working DivX variant encode, which leads me to believe that if it was a problem with the encode it'd be a problem with DivX/XviD/3ivX/VirtualDubMod rather than the source file(s).
But EADFAG wrote:Other playback problems may occur if you don't have an up-to-date DivX decoder installed or your decoding settings are in some way messed up. This is usually not a problem with the encode.
Which leads me to believe it's probably mostly a playback issue, and not about encoding at all.
I gave it a little more thought, and you might be having the same problems I had -- that when you are exporting to AVI, the editor is not utilizing the codec right.

Scintilla and I actually talked about this a bit before, but I still couldn't get my AVIs to work 100%.

There are two ways you can try:

- Experiment with a variety of codecs and see if one works for you. (The ffdshow codec was about the best one that exported well, but again, mine weren't 100% -- some graphical anomolies crept in every time for some unknown reason.)

- Exporting your video to a high-quality MPEG2 format and use DGIndex and VirtualModDub to re-encode your video. (This is presently how I'm processing my videos).
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Post by MightyMoose22 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:20 pm

Okay, thanks. I'll give them a try.

I kinda had it in the back of my mind that I may have to find a different distribution codec, but I thought I'd ask here before completely giving up on the DivX variants.

Thanks again, GQ.
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Post by GloryQuestor » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:28 pm

You're welcome. :)
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Post by Scintilla » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:39 pm

MightyMoose22 wrote:And Scintilla:-

Nope. All I get in VirtualDubMod is the same fine-audio-and-correctly-cropped-black-screen that I get in Media Player Classic. Any ideas?
Well, then the problem is with the encode.
What happens if you run only a first pass?
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Post by MightyMoose22 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:56 pm

Yeah, it just struck me that I hadn't tried opening an external source DivX vid since I started my current project (and started having the playback problems). So I just tried someone else's AMV and it plays fine.

So it isn't a playback issue and must be an encoding problem.

I haven't yet tried a sigle pass encode, because I got the impression that it would just be the same as the first pass on a 2 pass encode, which is only as far as I've been getting up 'till now anyway.

At the moment I'm running an export to MPEG2 (as GQ suggested), and I'll try a single pass when it's done.

Thanks again. Again. 8-)
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