Windows Movie Maker

wolferetic · Post by **wolferetic** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:59 pm

Hello to all, they are new of the forum, I call myself wolferetic it appeal to to know to you! ^ ^

I ask you excuse for my English bad (are Italian)!

I have a large problem with Windows Movie Maker, I can ask aid you (is this the topic of Movie Maker, just)? I have ended in these days a AMV, when I have it I wanted to save in Medium the Windows format Video, me is blocked saying that not there is sufficient virtual memory (I find it strange inasmuch as my hung AMV 67,5 MB and I have to disposition 28,00 GB). The only format in which me the DV saves that is enormous (904 MB ^ ^ ')! Someone can say to me like never fà therefore? Is before the time that Movie Maker gives this kind to me of problem!

Thanks! ^ ^

wolferetic · Post by **wolferetic** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:28 am

Hello, they are of new I! ^ ^

Someone can help me for the problem with my AMV? I have put a lot in order to make this AMV us that me sand bank not to be able it not to save on cd (seen the elevated one formed of 904 MB! ^ ^ ')

Thanks many, by wolfertic!

Melanchthon · Post by **Melanchthon** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:38 am

@wolferetic

Saving in DV is fine, as you can compress that to any codec you like. XviD is a good place to start (a guide to encoding in XviD is here).

.wmv has a bad reputation around here because of the quality of the average .wmv encode (this is the editor's fault and not the program's), and there are people who can't or won't play .wmv files.

Jayn_Newell · Post by **Jayn_Newell** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:12 am

Wolferetic--

Sounds likes part of your problem is just that you don't have enough RAM. I noticed you mentioned running low on virtual memory, which is when you run out of actual RAM and your computer starts using part of your harddrive as RAM storage (BTW, this has NOTHING to do with how much disk space is open). One way to fix the problem would be to just increase the size of your virtual memory, but you don't really want to be using virtual memory anyways since it's slower than actual RAM.

In short, you should probably be looking into adding another stick of RAM to your computer, in addition to Mel's advice. It'll help your computer run a bit faster.

(I'm kinda curious what kind of a machine you're using. My old laptop never had memory issues saving to .wmv, it just took forever)

shiro_clanclan · Post by **shiro_clanclan** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:27 pm

Okay, my turn to ask a question...

Everybody suggests saving as DV, since it always works. But I've noticed that on my computers, saving as DV doesn't work properly. The sound and video are both messed up, usually where effects (like speed mods) are concerned. I tested this theory by encoding a DV, then replacing its glitchy audio with the exact same audio file used in WMM... and voila, it desynched. Thus, both the audio and video are messed up.

So does anyone have an effective way of encoding as DV? I'd love to be able to work on a whole video at once and save it as a huge file (no worries about HD space here), but I'd need that file to be... well, what I created.

Side Note:

I was working on re-making a prototype AMV a few days ago. Originally I had a few clips for the intro, then a huge clip with the rest of the scenes for the end. It encoded fine. This time around I made clips for every scene change, put in all the clips exactly where they were before, then synched up the intro as I had done before. But this time, I got the "timeline too complex" encoder error.

I ran into this error first on Elfen Lied... I thought it was just because I used so many effects. After all, my videos that were DDR-length (Ippo, BISHF) never had encoding problems. But now, I think that simply having a full-length song causes WMM to fail encoding.

System Specs:
HP Pavillion s7320n Slimline
Windows XP Media Center Edition, SP2
1GB RAM
200 GB HD (Virtual Memory on auto)
1.6 GHz Celeron
Intel Integrated 82915G/GV/910GL 128 MB Graphics

So I'm kinda surprised that I'm hitting a complexity barrier so quickly...

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:53 am

WMM likes to do weird things sometimes. Especially when 2x slow and 2x fast are involved. You might want to try exporting the video in parts and then recombining the segments with VDub/Mod.

WMM even has issues with outputting high(er) quality WMV9 video.

wolferetic · Post by **wolferetic** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:26 pm

Super thanks Melanchthon and Jayn_Newell!!!!!!!!

I will try to put in practical your councils!! As soon as I do not succeed to compress it ve I make it to know!!

Cornwiggle · Post by **Cornwiggle** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:45 pm

Melanchthon wrote:
.wmv has a bad reputation around here because of the quality of the average .wmv encode (this is the editor's fault and not the program's), and there are people who can't or won't play .wmv files.

Says who? I've seen great quality WMV vids. I would give an example, but it's gone because it used an Evadfhsres song.

And as for people who won't even view wmv files because of the fact they think it'll suck, sucks you be you. You're missing out on some good vids. And not all vids that are wmv are made with WMM.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:01 pm

shiro_clanclan wrote:Okay, my turn to ask a question...

Everybody suggests saving as DV, since it always works. But I've noticed that on my computers, saving as DV doesn't work properly. The sound and video are both messed up, usually where effects (like speed mods) are concerned. I tested this theory by encoding a DV, then replacing its glitchy audio with the exact same audio file used in WMM... and voila, it desynched. Thus, both the audio and video are messed up.

So does anyone have an effective way of encoding as DV? I'd love to be able to work on a whole video at once and save it as a huge file (no worries about HD space here), but I'd need that file to be... well, what I created.

Side Note:

I was working on re-making a prototype AMV a few days ago. Originally I had a few clips for the intro, then a huge clip with the rest of the scenes for the end. It encoded fine. This time around I made clips for every scene change, put in all the clips exactly where they were before, then synched up the intro as I had done before. But this time, I got the "timeline too complex" encoder error.

I ran into this error first on Elfen Lied... I thought it was just because I used so many effects. After all, my videos that were DDR-length (Ippo, BISHF) never had encoding problems. But now, I think that simply having a full-length song causes WMM to fail encoding.

System Specs:
HP Pavillion s7320n Slimline
Windows XP Media Center Edition, SP2
1GB RAM
200 GB HD (Virtual Memory on auto)
1.6 GHz Celeron
Intel Integrated 82915G/GV/910GL 128 MB Graphics

So I'm kinda surprised that I'm hitting a complexity barrier so quickly...

create a high bitrate wmv profile with windows media encoder. see: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... ofile.mspx

for more mindless reading:
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cml ... ompare.htm

shiro_clanclan · Post by **shiro_clanclan** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:26 pm

I already have a megas-high profile. WME has been installed on my machine for a while. I use "AMV Uber Output" to make the original encodes, then use VDM to convert to AVI... that's why my new videos on the org are AVIs instead of WMVs. Macs like my sister's like AVIs.

But using this uber encoder (or rather, every single encoding option aside from DV) causes WMM to fail its encode hardly after it starts. About 10 seconds in, while the "Estimating Time Remaining" is still there.

Aside: Woot, a Cornellian! With a layering plugin for WMM! Probably works better than mine... >.>;;