Need a Format thats smaller but better then the Huff codec

deiot · Post by **deiot** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:21 pm

Would any one know of a codec that has a smaller file size then the huff codec and also works well with premiere... Ripping dvd's and making them in the huff format is a FREAKING huge ass file.
any one know of one?

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:57 pm

Working with digital video requires shloads of free disk space. There is no solution that'll make much smaller files with equivalent visual data treatment.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:03 pm

You could try the MJPEG/VOB-switchout method outlined in the Technical Guide on this site, though if you're really cramped for disk space, that might not work either.

Anyway, it's like jbone said. You want to work with digital video, you should expect to work with huge files. A 3:36 (that's three minutes, not three hours) clip runs 2.7 gigabytes in uncompressed YUV 4:2:0 planar.

The best solution for editing DVDs would be a system than can edit MPEG-2 natively, but amazingly few people who edit from DVD source use such systems (or so it seems around here).

deiot · Post by **deiot** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:21 pm

well the part about the shit load of free space is a big duh...
but it's the best there is for video editing formats..
GOD, WHY THE HELL CAN'T SOMEONE MAKE A DAMN CODEC THATS BETTER.

Synthangel · Post by **Synthangel** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:55 pm

MPEG-2. Read the guides, import your vob's into Premiere via AviSynth. It's smaller than Huff.

burntoast · Post by **burntoast** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:30 pm

Yea, I'd go with editing the vobs in Premiere using Avisynth, and the MJPEG codec. I'm not sure why u decided to encode them into huffyuv files and then edit those in Premiere..

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:38 pm

It's even more lossy than just editing with the VOBs.

DVD (YV12) -> HuffYUV (YUY2) -> Premiere (RGB) -> HuffYUV (YUY2) -> XviD/MPEG (YUY2)

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:16 am

deiot wrote: GOD, WHY THE HELL CAN'T SOMEONE MAKE A DAMN CODEC THATS BETTER.

God, why the hell can't someone make better users?

If you must blame someone or something, go blame mathematics, not the programmers.

deiot · Post by **deiot** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:51 am

heh.. very funny.
mathametical or programming it doesn't matter, somebuddy in this world can do it.

Quu · Post by **Quu** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:52 am

deiot wrote:well the part about the shit load of free space is a big duh...
but it's the best there is for video editing formats..
GOD, WHY THE HELL CAN'T SOMEONE MAKE A DAMN CODEC THATS BETTER.

hum... define better... if you are wanting perfect quality... then matimiatically your basically stuck... i think lossless JPEG2000 is 87% the size of a huffyuv file... but at a massive processor hit...

if you want lossy... then there is alot of options... i suggest DV... its good enuf

but somethign that is lossless and better than huffyuv.... that is hard to get... since after a certian point it can't get smaller

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Need a Format thats smaller but better then the Huff codec

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