Ripping one scene at a time / pre-processing questions

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:25 am

I'm slow, so please try to bear with me. First off, I'll put it the simple way:

Does anyone rip one scene at a time instead of entire episodes, and if so, how do you do this?

Long version.

Machine: Win 98SE, 511 MB of RAM, two 80G hard drives, partly used for other things (I'll get to why that's relevant). Editing in Premiere, never touched AE, don't need to now. Generally use VirtualDub, DVD2AVI, and DVD Decrypter for pre-processing.

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I usually try to follow the Guide's way, or at least how I understand it - VOB to D2V to AVS, and then a lossy copy in AVI to edit with, because using the AVS files directly in Premiere makes my computer slow down too much. Then, switching back to the AVS/D2V/VOB version for final tweaking and export.

This usually works great. However, I have a project in mind that wouldn't fit on the space I have, if I go that route. (which is why the storage capacity comes up - I don't have infinite space to work with.)

So I'm thinking that ripping individual scenes might be the way out - either keeping the lossy AVIs and working with those, or by clipping out parts in ...I forget its new name, I'm still using DVD2AVI because I suck. Anyway, marking out usable pieces from the full source somewhere along the line instead of keeping it all on my drive the whole time.

But if you work from a partial file and not the full VOB, it can't be remastered without major, major pain, can it? Does this work at all? Am I missing something really obvious that everybody does and I just haven't heard about? Those dudes who do videos with, like, 60 anime - do they actually rip a whole episode of each for one clip?

Somehow I doubt it, but I don't know how it's done.

I don't want to copy anyone's secret blend of herbs and spices; I just wondered what the general practice was, if there is a general practice that everyone does. If not, I'll muddle through and figure out a way to do it.

...I don't think this was in the Guides, but if it was, I'm sorry and I'll read it myself.

Hope this made sense. Thanks for any advice. I won't hold any of you responsible for any bad videos that might result.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:30 am

It's a tricky one. One thing you could do is use a vob cutting tool to take only the parts you need. The thing is that you will have to archive those vob segments if you want to remaster later.

If you need some suggestions for vob cutting then I can point you in a few directions.

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:36 am

I wouldn't mind archiving, and had thought about that (whichever route ends up being the most effective). I've got a stack of CD-Rs and time to kill.

If that's the most likely route, then I'm up for that. ...now that I have that term, I'm getting ChopperXP on searches, mostly. Is that good?

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:37 am

...screeeech! It doesn't run on my OS, or it might be good.

Sorry about spamming my own thread. Errr... looking again.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:46 am

Well personally the only vob cutter I've found that isnt really bloated is Mepg2Cut (which you can get from the doom9 download page under Digital TV).

DGindex is adding video demuxing though so once that is finished that will be what I recommend.

Jason 00 · Post by **Jason 00** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:15 am

With limited Hard Drive space the best idea "IMHO" would be to storyboard. Basically creating a plan for what scenes you hope to use and where best to place them with your song of choice. Then ripping your source footage (1 or 2 DVD's at a time) writting your script and cutting your clips in VirtualDub. Then deleting the .vob files to free up space for the next source.

Jnzk · Post by **Jnzk** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:45 am

What I'd do is rip only a few chapters from each disc and make notes of the chapter numbers. If you don't need access to the HQ versions while you edit, you can delete the VOBs temporarily and re-rip when you're finished.

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:42 am

virtual dub mod

if ou have a version is load avs as, you can make the avs of an episode, and open the ep and clip out the scenes you want.

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:48 pm

Farlo wrote:virtual dub mod

That's what I use to do this (I don't have enough harddrive space to hold a ton of VOBs).

I'm pretty sure that Vicbond's guide covers all of that.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:57 pm

Farlo wrote:virtual dub mod

if ou have a version is load avs as, you can make the avs of an episode, and open the ep and clip out the scenes you want.

SarahtheBoring wrote:But if you work from a partial file and not the full VOB, it can't be remastered without major, major pain, can it?