The 2004 Viewers Choice Awards Results

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:35 pm

Pwolf wrote:over the course of an entire year i'm sure the people on 56k have download some of the videos that were nomitated, no? every year there is that video or videos that "everyone must have" so i'm sure a good number of 56k'ers would take the time to download those videos. just guessing tho.

Umm, yeah, I already had maybe half of the videos. And I spent a week trying to d/l all the rest. It took me an average of 6-7 hours to get one video. Sometimes longer. But some of the videos isn't enough. And, no, I didn't vote in categories in which I hadn't seen all the nominees.

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:00 pm

Pwolf wrote:over the course of an entire year i'm sure the people on 56k have download some of the videos that were nomitated, no? every year there is that video or videos that "everyone must have" so i'm sure a good number of 56k'ers would take the time to download those videos. just guessing tho.

Pwolf

Well uh, of course we have. Just because some thread in AMV Announcements got 11 replies or about 20 people like a video doesn't mean I'm going to automatically download it (nevermind the fact that I don't hear about half of them until I see promotional threads in the VCA section) ...probably because I can't. Depending on what people's tastes are, by the time the VCA's come around I know that I have not downloaded all of them, --though this year I got a few categories where I saw all the videos, so I could actually vote, 'twas nice--.

My ISP kicks me off at around 4 hours. So I can only download videos that are less than about 62mb. Oprah (or that Mozilla crap) doesn't work (for me) and you can't use download managers. I can't possibly be the only one here with these problems.
This site has people here who just can't get all the videos and some people need to just realize that.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:02 am

Congratulations to all the winners ;D!

I thought Koop was going to win more. But four is enough I guess :p.

Cheers to all... :p

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:01 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:
Beowulf wrote:What if one of the nominations wouldn't be allowed for local hosting due to violence/sex?
That would mean the video had excessive sexual nudity and or violence, or the video used downloaded footage. Until there is a best Hentai Video category and a best Exploding Bodies and Orgy of Blood category that shouldn't be a problem.

So you are saying Hentai vids could never compete for Best Overall or Best Original Concept?

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:04 am

CaTaClYsM wrote: Until there is a best Hentai Video category and a best Exploding Bodies and Orgy of Blood category that shouldn't be a problem.

Also, keep in mind the VCA Best Horror Winner in 2001 (Faces of Death), could not be uploaded to the local server due to gore, so you are saying it would be disqualified by your standards.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:04 am

Yeah, and the action and horror categories can easily be the sorts of videos that arent allowed on the donut.

Limiting to people who've apparently downloaded all the videos is just dumb, imo.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:26 pm

Well, if you want to use any sort of vote-weighing system, download tracking is really the only valid method (from a technical standpoint). Unless you want to ask people "have you seen this video?", and trust them to answer truthfully. Since the direct links function via and org redirect anyway, it would be a relatively trivial task to count those.

For those that saw the videos as cons but didn't download them, there's not much to be done. Short of "have you seen this video?", there's no way to do that. And if you're going to take that approach to cons, might as well take it with everything.

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:29 pm

Kalium wrote:Well, if you want to use any sort of vote-weighing system, download tracking is really the only valid method (from a technical standpoint). Unless you want to ask people "have you seen this video?", and trust them to answer truthfully. Since the direct links function via and org redirect anyway, it would be a relatively trivial task to count those.

read back in the topic a bit, someone did mention tracking dls

but this was already shot down, just because someone dls a video, does not mean that they automatically have seen it, a lot of people leave videos dling while they're away and they don't realize the dl finished. sometimes people take a long time to just get into a video-viewing-mood so there is no guarantee that at any given time, you have watched all the videos you have downloaded

KEEPING IN MIND, i'm not saying EVERYONE downloads videos they don't watch, just saying that there ARE people that do this and if you're going to decide on whether they watched the video or not by tracking dls, it's not as fool-proof as you might think

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:05 pm

Daio Kaji wrote:...there is no guarantee that at any given time, you have watched all the videos you have downloaded.

Yep - and if you go with direct vids, all you have to do is click the download and cancel it after a minute or so. It will still count the video as being downloaded just because you clicked the link. Unlike local downloads, you have no guarantee the person got more than a few kbs of the vid - it counts the download on the first click (the same reason direct links give such higher 'download counts' - it counts every connection or click, not every actual download).

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:55 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Yeah, and the action and horror categories can easily be the sorts of videos that arent allowed on the donut.

Limiting to people who've apparently downloaded all the videos is just dumb, imo.

Almost as dumb as only watching one vid and giving it all the votes without watchy any of the other ones.