Off Topic Section Removed

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:22 pm

Big Big Truck wrote:

Why not delete every reply in this thread and leave this one in?

)v(ajin Koji · Post by **)v(ajin Koji** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:00 pm

agreed

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:57 pm

MCWagner wrote:
mexicanjunior wrote:
[MOD359]Half the reason for the removal of the OT forums is that they were detracting from the rest of the site. Useful people were leaving because the OT forums were bringing in the kind of useless people which make the site unenjoyable for those who chose not to tolerate their shinanigans. Removing those people makes the site more useful, because more useful people will be around.

You know, originally I thought the main reason off topic was removed was because the mods were tired of babysitting the OT threads, which I can respect. Now that I see the main reason was because it pushed away former big name creators and Phade wanted them back...it makes me think it was removed for all the wrong reasons.

I'm sorry, why can't there be two reasons for doing it?[/quote]

There can be as many reasons as people would like to claim there is, I just think the one listed as an example above is more of a "us (AMV elite) against them (OT posters)" mentaility, which I feel is rather silly.

Not everyone that posted in OT falls in the stereotype of spammer, nuisance, troublemaker, forum abuser that mods/Phade claim them to be. The a-m-v.org news ad is pretty funny though. Either way, it doesn't affect my involvement with the site, I still use the other forums and options of the site as I always have, I just think a little less of the people bashing OT forum posters is all.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:37 pm

BBT, you're my new hero.

-DOKool

J-0080 · Post by **J-0080** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:47 pm

Sure the mods may have a lot of stuff to do, sure they may have a lot of post to edit, or move, or delete even, but theres just one little thing to that.

It's their job!

A job that they're not even getting paid for I might add, you don't hear about volunteers at homeless shelters kicking people out because they don't feel like helping them all.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:15 pm

J-0080 wrote:Sure the mods may have a lot of stuff to do, sure they may have a lot of post to edit, or move, or delete even, but theres just one little thing to that.

It's their job!

A job that they're not even getting paid for I might add, you don't hear about volunteers at homeless shelters kicking people out because they don't feel like helping them all.

You forgot to add that the homeless are shitting all over the place, throwing crap around, messing with the kitchen, and ungratefully yelling at the people that give them free stuff.

MCWagner · Post by **MCWagner** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:53 am

mexicanjunior wrote:
MCWagner wrote:
mexicanjunior wrote:
You know, originally I thought the main reason off topic was removed was because the mods were tired of babysitting the OT threads, which I can respect. Now that I see the main reason was because it pushed away former big name creators and Phade wanted them back...it makes me think it was removed for all the wrong reasons.
I'm sorry, why can't there be two reasons for doing it?
There can be as many reasons as people would like to claim there is, I just think the one listed as an example above is more of a "us (AMV elite) against them (OT posters)" mentaility, which I feel is rather silly. Not everyone that posted in OT falls in the stereotype of spammer, nuisance, troublemaker, forum abuser that mods/Phade claim them to be.

Well, you may want to note that you're putting words in their mouths here. They say that the activity in OT was driving off "useful" members. You interpret "useful" to mean either "big name" or "elite". I took them to mean "people who weren't spamming, posting porn, or inciting flamewars." In other words, the people not acting like assholes. "Useful people were leaving because the OT forums were bringing in the kind of useless people which make the site unenjoyable for those who chose not to tolerate their shinanigans." They didn't say that all of the OT posters did that, they said that OT was bringing them in. Can you deny that OT has attracted some really annoying individuals? You see a division between the "elite" and "OT posters", I see the division between "complete assholes that've been banned multiple times who happen to hang out solely in OT" and "everyone else." We're not talking about the same groups.

MCWagner · Post by **MCWagner** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:57 am

J-0080 wrote:Sure the mods may have a lot of stuff to do, sure they may have a lot of post to edit, or move, or delete even, but theres just one little thing to that.

It's their job!

A job that they're not even getting paid for I might add, you don't hear about volunteers at homeless shelters kicking people out because they don't feel like helping them all.

Homeless people don't have anywhere else to go. Therefore it's charity. Forum posters have a near-infinite number of other sites to visit. Therefore it's providing a privaledge.

We're sorry that the free ice cream isn't your favorite flavor. Would you care for us to refund your subscription?

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:00 am

There are other shelters in other towns, they just have to move to them, potentially splitting up with friends and familiarities. Granted it's far easier to find another internet forum than to walk to another town when you're starving, but the principle is the same.

Just saying.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:08 am

MCWagner wrote:Homeless people don't have anywhere else to go. Therefore it's charity. Forum posters have a near-infinite number of other sites to visit. Therefore it's providing a privaledge.

Another difference is that homeless people rairly pay for the charity the way some donators do here, they don't pay for the privilege of being told to go somewhere else if you don't like it.

We're sorry that the free ice cream isn't your favorite flavor. Would you care for us to refund your subscription?

Call it a highly discounted ice cream. The cheapest, widest variety of icecream you'll find, but not quite free considering the members pay to buy the icecream being distributed. Who knows, maybe if they paid more they'd get to choose the flavors once in a while...