Question?

Kevmaster · Post by **Kevmaster** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:53 am

Gepetto wrote:From this thread alone, my theory is she stole someone's videos and put them on herr account, said person found out and now she wants to run away from the punishment by creating a new account.

How about not doing that?

Talking others Footage without asking the real editor is really bad >.<
But If the person really feel bad about it Most people can forgive, I think..but If you really want to have a new account, I think you should go and request to delete all your Video entrys, so that your account is totally empty, remove the picture and the text about you from your profile and just make a new account..

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:50 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Wait, don't actions have consequences?

shes already HAD consequences and has learned from her actions (yea im the one she stole from along with two of my friends there was HUGE drama and its all been worked out...) its been a long time for her to get over it (well over a year) and learn from her mistakes which is what shes done, its time for her to move on, not continue to bet blasted and berated... :/

punishing someone for something they did ages ago that they have already been punished for is like rubbing her nose in it... she did it, she learned from it, its over... let her move on... no sense in mobbing her, or letting people continue to bitch and moan :/

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:45 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:Wait, don't actions have consequences?
shes already HAD consequences and has learned from her actions (yea im the one she stole from along with two of my friends there was HUGE drama and its all been worked out...) its been a long time for her to get over it (well over a year) and learn from her mistakes which is what shes done, its time for her to move on, not continue to bet blasted and berated... :/

punishing someone for something they did ages ago that they have already been punished for is like rubbing her nose in it... she did it, she learned from it, its over... let her move on... no sense in mobbing her, or letting people continue to bitch and moan :/

How about teaching a lesson? "You made your bed, now sleep in it." Learning that some consequences in life will in fact ruin your reputation for life, and running and hiding isn't an option to be talked about publically - i.e. it involves bribery and backroom deals - like politics!

darkangel199113 · Post by **darkangel199113** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:51 pm

Just to let you all know I have been forgiving I've tooken my punshiment and I've moved on. The only reason I asked this question was because someone who I took from was a little late on the info about it. She started sending me e-mail in here and bitching at me that I fet rid of them or she'd tell on me even though people already know. She even blocked me from downloading her videos from her site. I know what I did was wrong and I have accepted it and went on with my life. But some people here just don't know how to go on.

Also to let you know I have created a new account and if if one of the people in charge wants to delete it they may. I'm never going to go back to it and I've already forgotten my password for that account; oh and for your information, I'm not hiding or running away. I just want to start over new. I've been trying to do that but every time I try to delete a video they say "no" or "once it's in the catalog it can't be removed" so I just stopped asking and since people who I took from didn't seem to care I didn't bother to get rid of them. Until the bith I was talking about got on my back. I know why she's mad and I've had stuff tooken from me before too. Now, I want to say the only reason I took footage from other people is because a friend told me that was how I was suppose to do it. I don't even know that girl anymore.

Anyways, I want to say thank you jaddziadax for sticking up for me and teaching me the right way to make videos. Now if anyone else wants to complain about it please tell me and I'd be glad to bitch at you more and write another long post. Thank you and have a great day.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:16 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:How about teaching a lesson? "You made your bed, now sleep in it." Learning that some consequences in life will in fact ruin your reputation for life, and running and hiding isn't an option to be talked about publically - i.e. it involves bribery and backroom deals - like politics!

like i mentioned before, why not just delete the offending videos (which a mod would probably do anyways as far as i know... ive seen them do it before) and let her start again without the drama... or just delete her old account entirely? then she would only have one account. the people who were "victimized" will still know what she did, and still know who she is, but it will stop new people from causing new drama out of old stuff...

O.o
im not saying that she should be allowed to have two accounts, and have access to both of them, and if its so damn important to keep vids in the catelogue which clearly break the rules of this site anyways (that doesnt seem right) then freeze the original account so it cannot be accessed by anyone.

im saying do one or the other, delete her old account or delete the videos which should have been deleted anyways. I'm sure the only reason that they werent deleted is cause i told kalium to not worry about it cause things were worked out. >.<

and if its so important to keep the video entries, then delete the local and disable the links on them so she cannot change them around...

granted she probably shouldnt have posted on the forums, but what is done is done...

actually I'd probably suggest she email the admins, and the mods lock this thread so she can work it out one on one with them rather than dragging more people in who will cause drama... :/

Gepetto · Post by **Gepetto** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:30 am

Starting over anew is one thing, but deleting your account and creating another one is pretending to be someone else, and that id hiding and running away.

One of my videos (which is no longer downloadable because of that Evanescence thing) has about 1.5 seconds stolen from Dokidoki's Anime Mascot's Day Off. AMV4000 found me out, I foolishly tried to deny it, but in the end I apologized and everything worked out. Actually, I'm currently making a sequel to said video and it's crossed my mind a few times to steal footage again and put flashy letters on the screen saying "STOLEN FROM DOKIDOKI", in the manner of the "Blatant Matrix Ripoff" from Joseph Blanchette's One Ring to Rule Them All 2. That would be an inside joke, and of course I'd ask first this time.

My point with the above paragraph is, you don't need a new account to start fresh. If you're forgiven, then that settles it. I still get treated very normally here and most of the people who read this post will probably take my past thievery as news. I was a stupid kid and I grew up, enough said and I moved on. You can do the same thing.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:11 am

thats fine, im not saying she should get a new account to start over (though ive known several people to do that, that didnt steal anything) im just saying give her atleast one of the options i described...

let her keep the first sn, just delete the videos... that way she doesnt get further harassed by people who dont know the whole story

Gepetto · Post by **Gepetto** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:12 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:let her keep the first sn, just delete the videos... that way she doesnt get further harassed by people who dont know the whole story

I should have mentioned in my previous post that I vote for this solution. It's the best possible one, IMO: The "irregular" videos get removed, thus doing justice to the "victims" and darkangel has a boulder removed from her shoulders. Furthermore, JaddziaDax herself, one of the "victims", suggested this course of action, so I really don't see why not.

darkangel199113 · Post by **darkangel199113** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:27 pm

Just to let you know (since you apprently ignored my last post) I've already created a new account. I've also forgotten the password to my old one and I really don't feel like going back to it. I like my new account and I don't plan on going back to my old one. Not because I'm running away because,

1) I forgot my password and I don't feel like making a new one.

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2) I really see no point since I've already been forgivin and I like my new account.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:30 am

You've been told it's against the rules to make a new account. You've already done it and plan to stick with it, knowing it's against the rules.

So why did you make a thread advertising that you're breaking the rules?

Break them quietly and no one would ever know about it (probably). Advertising it like this is just asking for your new account to be tracked and your entire IP banned from ever using the site again. >.<

If this is the reaction of everyone who gets a slap on the wrist for stealing videos, it's no wonder people continue to do it all over the site. Forgive and forget clearly just makes them even bolder about breaking the rules.