bittorrent

Alpha_Hazard · Post by **Alpha_Hazard** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:43 pm

I am absolutely opposed to the use of any bittorrent client for several reasons.

1. It is not accurate, I use BT for a while and had an average of 60% of my downloads come up Corrupted.

2. You rely on others to down videos, that is, they must be logged on to the internet, and using BT, and have the video, and preferably stay on for the entire download.

3. Most BT clients are laced with spyware and ad-ware, and I just finished fix those problems

Try downloading episodes from virtually any Fan Sub website and you'll find that even the most patient person get absolutely fed up waiting 37 days for a single episode of naruto, even if it is number 67.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:23 pm

Alpha_Hazard wrote:1. It is not accurate, I use BT for a while and had an average of 60% of my downloads come up Corrupted.

Then you have a serious problem with your hard drives corrupting data, in that case. Bittorrent has in-built CRC checking and wil re-download a section if it doesnt pass a CRC check. It's practically impossible to have a BT download end up corrupt unless the original file is.

Alpha_Hazard wrote:3. Most BT clients are laced with spyware and ad-ware, and I just finished fix those problems

I've never seen a bittorrent client with spyware or adware. You obviously have been downloading some pretty weird clients.

I think there are some good reasons against BT for amvs but I do not think that these are among them.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:46 pm

Also...

Alpha_Hazard wrote:2. You rely on others to down videos, that is, they must be logged on to the internet, and using BT, and have the video, and preferably stay on for the entire download.

You aren't relying on one person... If you are then that is your fault... Most sites display tracker information that show How many people connected have complete files(seeders) and how many are downloading. Sometimes you don't even need anybody with a complete file as long as among everyone downloading there is peices to make a complete file.
This system is not bad as it reduces the load on a server and prevents immensly leechers.

Alpha_Hazard wrote:Try downloading episodes from virtually any Fan Sub website and you'll find that even the most patient person get absolutely fed up waiting 37 days for a single episode of naruto, even if it is number 67.

I've downloaded alomst 10GB in one week with BT. There are good variations of the original that allow you set your upload rate. A good setting (for cable users) is a few KB less than your max upload rate. That way BT can easily use some of your upstream bandwidth the set up connections for the peices you need. Also make sure there are enough people seeding/downloading the file already. If there is only one person then it will take a while to download.

Alpha_Hazard · Post by **Alpha_Hazard** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:09 pm

Alright, well, I just want some proof that it works, I mean tell me which program to use and which websites to download from I would be happy to concede, but I had four, all of which I left going for several days and never received a single byte from the sites I was selecting from. And when I tried to download brokensaints the file was corrupted everytime (which is probably the file and not the client)

The first Client I downloaded I don't even remember the name, I just downloaded it because it was the only one that would download BrokenSaints, I tried downloading other stuff with it, and they were all corrupted too., and then the others I used never downloaded stuff, and I ended up with 22 pieces of spyware and adware on my system afterwards.

Give me a Program to use a website to select from and I'll try it.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:22 pm

Azureus is the best BT client I've used. Uses Java has a nice interface, allows for multiple downloads...

NO SPYWARE. Like AD, I've not seen a spyware BT client. BT also works best if you have a direct connection to the internet(not going through a router). You need to have port 6881 directed to your machine or allowed by your firewall.

I've downloaded quite a bit. I can't list any BT sites I visit as it would probably be against the TOS. But look for "Anime Fansub Bittorrent" on yahoo and I am sure you'll come up with something.

Brsrk · Post by **Brsrk** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:50 pm

Azureus was a RAM hog for me (Pentium 2 333, getting a nice 3 GHz laptop this summer), so I use the ABC BitTorrent client. It's pretty nice, not a RAM hog, and you can limit how much you upload (very good for multiple torrents). I currently have one sitting at 66.6% with 0 upstream and 0 downstream, and there are 2 seeds and me connected. I have one with no seeds, 10 peers, and seeing 2 complete copies going at 10 kbps. I might unlimit my uploads for a few of them so I can finish them faster than they are going (took 4 days to get 70% for Chrno Crusade ep 1, so I said screw it).

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:32 pm

I use torrentstorm now. It allows you to control just about every aspect of torrents. In the link below there are screenshots and details about this client.

http://www.torrentstorm.com/

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:39 pm

BrsrkEva wrote:Azureus was a RAM hog for me (Pentium 2 333, getting a nice 3 GHz laptop this summer), so I use the ABC BitTorrent client.

Yeah Azureus is a ram/cpu hog as are most Java apps -_-;;. I have a 1.4Ghz Athlon & 1GB of RAM so I don't notice it. But if you have a lower spec machine, some other program would probably be better... Also I enjoy Azureus's auto-update, no need to have to visit the website when a new version comes out... Just click a button and bam...

WilLoW :--) · Post by **WilLoW :--)** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:37 am

Alpha_Hazard wrote:Alright, well, I just want some proof that it works,

Animix 1234 (590 GB) has been downloaded more than 500 times the 5 first days when it was released over bittorrent. This represents a constant upload rate of 700KB/s
This was exactly the same thing for the DDR3, and as far as I remember, the NES project was also close to these statistics.
So Apparently for some people it works :/

As the others said, you have to have a good client (I've NEVER seen any Adware or spyware in any bittorrent client I have used), and to be sure that there are enough distributed copies AND/OR seeders for a given file.
If you attempt to download from a torrent that is dead, of course you won't download anything :/

And as AD pointed out, if you get a corrupt file through bittorrent, you can be sure that the original file was corrupted, or that you have serious hardware problems.

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:41 am

Forget it. I still vote no. I think that the more diffuse way of DLing AMVs (bittorent) is pointless when we have access to a local server download. As for spyware- you bring that on yourself if you don't have a personal firewall and adware remover tool. Silly fool.
I think that you're looking for other options because the server is stressed out with bandwidth issues, and that's not necessarily a BAD thing, But if you truly wanted to solve the problem, you'd donate even more cash to the Golden Donut.

What we need is two or three dedicated server towers with CAT6 and unlimited bandwidth, but since none of us can have SONET.... ahhhh, pipe dream.