rule/guideline for journal usage

[Cornwiggle]

But you don't need to chat when you have personal messages or instant messangers. And I hate seeing journals "I'm bored" "Wow, I'm hungry"

*coughcoughZapemraycoughcoughJaddziadaxcoughcough*

They're used as chat rooms too much. I think limiting it so you have to a certain number of words, at least it would eliminate stuff like above, and they'd be foreced to say a bit more and hopefully make it a bit more...useful.

That is more of a pet peeve.

Answer my question, what do you want to use the journals for. Not: what do you not want to use the journals for.

A pet peeve? Maybe, but it's freaking annoying. We don't need to know you're hungry, eat something. Wow, you're bored, I don't care, go outside or do something productive than just wasting everyone's time in journals.

And what I would like journals to be used for (most of the time):
To announce your progress with your editing, or if you've gotten an idea, something like that. Think of it as if you went on vaction to another country and you kept a journal, something like that, just mapping out your expierences. Take a look at either Dj_Ultima or Arigatomina's journal.

And asking for help from someone on journals I guess could be okay if it's something that won't be answered on the forums like "where can I get a song?" On the forum you'll just get "buy the CD".


The fact that all the junkies make about 11 posts in a journal a day is annoying because all they're doing is just either whoring themselves out (you), or talking with their friends (Yeiweh, Kikai, Wurpress), or pimping their friend's vid like crazy (everyone who is Jubjub's friend).

And it gets really really annoying after awhile.

[Ayanefan]

And what I would like journals to be used for (most of the time):
To announce your progress with your editing, or if you've gotten an idea, something like that. Think of it as if you went on vaction to another country and you kept a journal, something like that, just mapping out your expierences. Take a look at either Dj_Ultima or Arigatomina's journal.

And asking for help from someone on journals I guess could be okay if it's something that won't be answered on the forums like "where can I get a song?" On the forum you'll just get "buy the CD".


The fact that all the junkies make about 11 posts in a journal a day is annoying because all they're doing is just either whoring themselves out (you), or talking with their friends (Yeiweh, Kikai, Wurpress), or pimping their friend's vid like crazy (everyone who is Jubjub's friend).

And it gets really really annoying after awhile.

Very good, perfect examples of what they should be used for. Now, let me put you on the defensive:

When did you see that, at any time, you couldn't use the journals the way you have described them?

Anyone can use the journals the way they want to, overusing it or not, it's all gravy.

1. You can post your thoughts in the journal.
2. You can announce your progress in editing
3. Anyone can read Dj_ultima AND Arigatoma's jounal
4. You can ask people questions about songs.

Not better than putting it up on the blackboard for everyone to see.

Here are some perks: you can also indirectly speak to these people; you can ask them where they've been, you can ask about the progress and at the same time have other people enjoy the information that is being shared.

IMO, the root problem is that you can only see the last 10 entries in the new journal entry list and there are a few people that fill that list pretty quickly.

****** I would suggest this then: at the bottom of the list, add a "next" , "previous" selection as you do have in the journals themselves so you can see who else posted during that day or maybe extend it to a few more days. Still the newest journals will be first and then any other entries will come after and maybe people will not miss anything. ******** End of suggestion

If that is not suitable, then I think there are just a few people that are annoyed that other members are using the journals a lot.

[Cornwiggle]

Here are some perks: you can also indirectly speak to these people; you can ask them where they've been, you can ask about the progress and at the same time have other people enjoy the information that is being shared.

The only thing I have to say is that's ok to me as long as you don't go "omg where are they!@!!!!!" every post, if they're not on then wait. Or better yet....PM them or email them.

But I don't see any problem with saying "Where is....blahblah....by the way? They haven't been on for awhile"


Though I think that would be best used as a tack on rather than just a whole entry.

[Ayanefan]

The only thing I have to say is that's ok to me as long as you don't go "omg where are they!@!!!!!" every post, if they're not on then wait. Or better yet....PM them or email them.

But I don't see any problem with saying "Where is....blahblah....by the way? They haven't been on for awhile"

Though I think that would be best used as a tack on rather than just a whole entry.

I don't get it. What does it matter? Nobody is pissing in anyones Cornflakes. The only way I can quantify that statement, as a programmer and a DB admin, is this: If if fills up the server space or overuses the bandwidth, then that's bad. But text doesn't use much space, believe me, I know.

[BasharOfTheAges]

Your bumping legitimate posts in journal format by people who are using the fucking thing correctly with mindless chatting that can be done elsewhere - that's a problem. Journal pages are not the PM system. We have a PM system, USE IT AND STOP BEING A FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE!

[8bit_samurai]

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stuff. Journal pages are not the PM system. We have a PM system. stuff

sweet org drama. not really. but anyways i kinda agree w/bota there. i mean, if your too lazy for pming, theres always msn messenger. or yahoo messenger. they automatically log in when you start your comp. sweet. i mean, afterwards all ya gotta do is double click on some names and type your text and receive an instantanious response. much better then always havin to openin up firefox, log in , clickin on journal buddies, check what the other members write, then go into your journal, respond, then wait for the other members to do the same. sweet. time saver.

[Ayanefan]

Your bumping legitimate posts in journal format by people who are using the fucking thing correctly with mindless chatting that can be done elsewhere - that's a problem. Journal pages are not the PM system. We have a PM system, USE IT AND STOP BEING A FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE!

This whole thread is BS. Nothing more than people bitching for no reason. NO REASON WHATSOEVER! Does it bring the system down? Does it cause people to lose their homes? NO! The fact is that someone got tired of seeing other people enjoying the ORG.
Come back and tell me what devastating impact do the journals have over the ORG community and if it treatens to take it down.
This is nothing but a pet peeve; a fight between siblings. The journals enhance the community as it is and it more people used it then it would be even better.

And if there are people using it for "ligitimate" reasons; use it for what? Saying hi to people, adding their thoughts. Ooooooo, but then the next person comes along and then adds another post OH MY GOD!!!! SOMEONE WROTE SOMTHING OVER ME!!!!!!!

I'm going back to bed.

[Radical_Yue]

Time for my point of view (yay! xD)

Journals - I personally enjoy them. You can be as mindlessly silly without worrying about having your entry taken down. Because guess what...it's your journal. Type whatever the hell you want. If you wanna use it to chat. Fine. If you wanna bitch. Fine. If you want to complain about a thread in the forums about journals. Fine.

As long as you aren't using them to verbally attack anyone (which should not be allowed ANYWHERE, because it is rude and a form of harrasment) I think they should be used however the person writting in them sees fit.

If you have a problem with the journals, ignore it? If you think they're so stupid and pointless, why go on a 3 page thread rant about them? Leave them be and let the people who enjoy them, continue to enjoy them.

"Oh well, why go through the hassle of logging in, checking journal buddies, adding an entry, waiting for a response, etc...?"

Why do the people who post in journals do this? Simple, because they want to. If they don't feel like pm'ing, who cares?

Once again, if you enjoy it, have fun with it.

If you can't stand it, leave it alone, stop bitching, and let people have fun.



Now come on ya'll, make AMVs, not war.

[JaddziaDax]

But you don't need to chat when you have personal messages or instant messangers. And I hate seeing journals "I'm bored" "Wow, I'm hungry"

*coughcoughZapemraycoughcoughJaddziadaxcoughcough*

They're used as chat rooms too much. I think limiting it so you have to a certain number of words, at least it would eliminate stuff like above, and they'd be foreced to say a bit more and hopefully make it a bit more...useful.

perhaps i like writing "im bored" on the black board because its something to fill a minute, you must be bored too if youre reading it...

sometimes announcing "im bored" can perhaps spark someone to IM you when you dont know who you want to talk to or what you want to talk about...

perhaps posting "im hungry" means that youre hungry... how is this any more valid than posting "i finished 1/2 of my craptastic cornboy video"? no one cares that im hungry and no one cares that you make craptastic videos, mine takes up less bandwidth in the end though

and should i state for the record that we DO infact have IMs and such (just cause i blocked you cornboy that doesnt mean i dont use it dumbass) and we DO INFACT USE THEM...

Your bumping legitimate posts in journal format by people who are using the fucking thing correctly with mindless chatting that can be done elsewhere - that's a problem. Journal pages are not the PM system. We have a PM system, USE IT AND STOP BEING A FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE!

i hate to say it but bitching about your "legit" journal not being seen by the public makes you sould like a fucking attention whore too :/
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so in the end the journals are for attention whores... if anything, isnt that why we are all on this site? i mean cornboy keeps looking for attention wherever he will get it, even if it means he acts like a redheaded step child and gets beaten in the head for it..

and i think the "passing notes" analogy is legit... perhaps the person you have to pass it to is 2-5 people away, you know one of them is going to stop and read the note as its passed... a black board is more like if the whole entry was posted on this page as most site announcements are :/

[Kalium]

This whole thread is BS. Nothing more than people bitching for no reason. NO REASON WHATSOEVER!

The Journals are part of the site, and therefore should be subject to site rules, such as "no abuse". This means limitations, restrictions, rules, etc. Like it or not.