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The_Mad_Hatter · Post by **The_Mad_Hatter** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:32 pm

earthcurrent wrote:
The_Mad_Hatter wrote:Yeah but then they kill em, skin em, and clean em. *shrugs*
...or do they...

Well I can't say as I've ever bought chicken in the store covered in shit and feathers...I dunno, maybe you shop somewhere different from where I go.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:39 pm

earthcurrent wrote:...or do they...

Let's go through the steps of a chicken being slaughtered:

I AM POSTING A FEW PICS. SOME MAY BE DISTURBED BY THE GRAPHIC IMAGES.

Firstly, chickens are unloaded from the crates in which they have been transported to the slaughterhouse. They are then hung upside down by their legs from shackles which are attached to a moving line.

The line takes the chickens to an electrified water bath. The birds’ heads are dragged through the stunning bath which is intended to stun or kill them. The moving line then takes them on to automatic neck cutters. Their necks are cut and gravity works to help bleed out the bird. Many birds are not properly stunned due to too low a current being used. And the automated neck-cutting is rather inefficient and usually only one artery is sliced, slowing the bleeding and death of the chicken.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:44 pm

The_Mad_Hatter wrote:Well I can't say as I've ever bought chicken in the store covered in shit and feathers...I dunno, maybe you shop somewhere different from where I go.

They wash 'em off once they have been flocked, but chicken is regularly covered with salmonila and fecal colifom bacteria, which leads to extensive cases of food poisoning in the U.S. every year. Certainly, federal health regulations help limit health risks. But as I stated earlier, I don't have problems with people who eat store bought meat. I just feel people should better appreciate where their food comes from.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:53 pm

You guys are making me hungry

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:24 pm

Enchilada!

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:36 pm

jonmartensen wrote:You guys are making me hungry

I'm trying...

gadoo · Post by **gadoo** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 7:56 pm

earthcurrent wrote:We also have a local processor that I can buy whole quarters of range fed cattle from (which are not drugged as heavily as feedlot cows, and actually eat food that they can healthily digest).

I am fully aware, however that most people don't hunt because they don't know how, don't feel they have ready access to areas to hunt in, or have no desire to kill an animal themselves. My major concern, however, rests on the fact that most people are totally unaware of what is done to most livestock while it is still alive, when it is being slaughtered, and when it is being packed, shipped and processed for sale in their local grocery store. It is sort of like the movie Soylent Green,"Soylent Green is People!" Our society, as Hatter demonstrated, is too detatched and sanitized to the reality of what they eating. And while we may not be eating "people", the nature of the food should still be questioned.

a simply no would have been fine

Kracus · Post by **Kracus** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 11:57 am

The_Mad_Hatter wrote:Hypocrites. Loath the suffering and destruction of one animal but condone the same to another. Have you eaten YOUR McDonalds cheese burger today?

Mercilessly slaughter up cows left and right but tigers, OH NO, can't have that! Cause tigers are "cute" and cows aren't.

The only REAL argument I can see here is the fact that if they're endangered we kill them off completely, however with the ever growing advances in genetic engineering, it's only matter of time before that becomes a moot point.

1. I'm surprised this thread got so long, I didn't notice anyone post in it before I left work

2. I don't eat much meat. Don't assume you know everyone

3. If someone says they are gonna take care of a species that is low in numbers already and treat them like that, then yes it is wrong. No hypocrites. So please save the high moral road for someone else. Its nice to know you think you're better then everyone else. That's a worse problem then what you accuse us of.

The_Mad_Hatter · Post by **The_Mad_Hatter** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 12:21 pm

Kracus wrote: 1. I'm surprised this thread got so long, I didn't notice anyone post in it before I left work

You're surprised that a thread I'm posting in has gotten long? o_O

2. I don't eat much meat. Don't assume you know everyone

So a little is okay, but not a lot? ^_^

3. If someone says they are gonna take care of a species that is low in numbers already and treat them like that, then yes it is wrong. No hypocrites. So please save the high moral road for someone else. Its nice to know you think you're better then everyone else. That's a worse problem then what you accuse us of.

Uh...I don't really have any morals actually. See I say that openly. I'm not a hypocrite like so many others. I mean it's like you have a guy and he says killing is wrong. But then he supports killing in self defense, abortions, and the death penalty...LOL...it's funny, cause people just don't think. They go and say one thing without really taking a look at all the various things that relate to it.

If you say don't kill the tigers cause they're endangered, okay, that I get, but the minute you start saying things like, "we can't kill them cause they're cute", that's when you start lookin like a hypocrite. I'm not necessarily speaking to you (I don't even remember anything you said...fuck I can't even remember your name), but to anyone whose train of thought started to derail along those lines.

I eat meat, I have no problems with the merciless slaughter of "innocent" animals to feed my apatite. Even the "cute" ones. And as soon as technology advances to the point where we can genetically recreate as many of the fuckers as we like...hey, I say pass me on over a plate of tiger!

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:54 pm

stupidity at it's best.

Please, reply to my post hatter and amuse us more