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Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
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You choose Sam,the rest
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Jebadia
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does this mean your gonna have to kill me?
"If you believe in yourself, eat all your school, stay on milk, drink your teeth, don't do sleep, and get your eight hours of drugs, you can get WORK!"
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Toecutter
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It was good for eye candy, but they royally fucked up the whole timeline. I listed a complete list of inconsistencies in time travel, Terminator jargon, and the characters on another forum (which took about 5 pages-worth of text), so I won't cover it all here.
The REAL Terminator fans will be pissed off when they see this film, because the producers, screenwriters, and director completely screw up every last detail and major character trait. In fact, the T-800 Terminator (Arnold) behaves differently throughout the film, with no consistency to the previously established T-800 character, or the timeline.
They basically did a "Star Trek Voyager" slaughter to the Terminator timeline. They couldn't even get the development of Skynet, the history of the future war, John Connor's age, or even the T-800 model series right (Arnold refers to himself as a T-101 Terminator in this film, which, if you are a true fan of the Terminator films, will find quite insulting).
What really amazed me, was the fact they couldn't even do the basic addition right to figure out John's age in the second film. They change his age to 13, and tweak his social life around with respect to the second film, in order to copy/paste the Kyle Reese/Sarah Connor love story in with John Connor, and some new pathetic female they added in to make it a chick flick. Even the T-800 acts as though John is just the figurehead of the future, and this bitchy woman is the head hancho in charge of the resistance.
The REAL Terminator fans will be pissed off when they see this film, because the producers, screenwriters, and director completely screw up every last detail and major character trait. In fact, the T-800 Terminator (Arnold) behaves differently throughout the film, with no consistency to the previously established T-800 character, or the timeline.
They basically did a "Star Trek Voyager" slaughter to the Terminator timeline. They couldn't even get the development of Skynet, the history of the future war, John Connor's age, or even the T-800 model series right (Arnold refers to himself as a T-101 Terminator in this film, which, if you are a true fan of the Terminator films, will find quite insulting).
What really amazed me, was the fact they couldn't even do the basic addition right to figure out John's age in the second film. They change his age to 13, and tweak his social life around with respect to the second film, in order to copy/paste the Kyle Reese/Sarah Connor love story in with John Connor, and some new pathetic female they added in to make it a chick flick. Even the T-800 acts as though John is just the figurehead of the future, and this bitchy woman is the head hancho in charge of the resistance.
GoatMan
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klinky
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Ein_the_dog
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I was pissed at the new movie. They always find a good way to ruin a series.
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Toecutter
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The first two films made more sense with the timeline than this new one. Kyle Reese being John's father works out reasonably well, at least a whole lot better than one of John's children going back through time, and humping Sarah Connor.
As for the creation of Skynet, it was Miles Bennet Dyson of Cyberdyne Systems' special projects division which invented the neuro-processor, based on the first T-800's surviving chip. Stealth bombers are upgraded with fully automated neuro-processors, giving them a flawless service record. Eventually, the government realizes how effective an automated "learning computer" would run the American defense network. So, the Skynet Bill goes through Congress.
Skynet becomes self aware, and scares the shit out of the military, so they decide to eliminate Skynet's control. In retaliation, Skynet launches America's ICBMs against Russia, so the Russians will strike Skynet's enemies here.
John Connor leads the resistance through a bloody war of attrition, until 2029, when the resistance wins, and conquers Skynet's main base of operations in Los Angeles. In a last-ditch effort, Skynet sends two Terminators back through time to kill John Connor before he can form the resistance (one to kill Sarah before John is born, and the other when he was 10, not 13 as this movie explains). However, the resistance sends Kyle Reese after the first T-800, because Reese volunteers after being in love with Sarah for so many years, and as a safety precaution, John sends a reprogrammed T-800 back to 1995 (T2 was meant to take place in '95, when John was 10, rather than it's release date in '91), because John knows Kyle doesn't survive the first T-800 encounter.
What's so conflicting in the timeline so far? The only problem, is the fact Judgement Day could only occur after T2, if back-up data on the T-800 neuro-processor were present at another Cyberdyne Systems location, allowing Cyberdyne to build Skynet.
For this version of the timeline to take place, Skynet would have to have installed false historical data and inaccurate "detailed files" on Dyson's involvement in the Skynet project in the CS-101 infiltrators (the endoskeletons, including the 800 series), and the T-1000, so as to mislead Sarah and John Connor. Also, John Connor would have had to deny the T-800 and Kyle Reese the real timeline information, so as to keep the space-time continuum loop in place.
This new timeline is as inconsistent as Gundam Wing is to Mobile Suit Gundam.
As for the creation of Skynet, it was Miles Bennet Dyson of Cyberdyne Systems' special projects division which invented the neuro-processor, based on the first T-800's surviving chip. Stealth bombers are upgraded with fully automated neuro-processors, giving them a flawless service record. Eventually, the government realizes how effective an automated "learning computer" would run the American defense network. So, the Skynet Bill goes through Congress.
Skynet becomes self aware, and scares the shit out of the military, so they decide to eliminate Skynet's control. In retaliation, Skynet launches America's ICBMs against Russia, so the Russians will strike Skynet's enemies here.
John Connor leads the resistance through a bloody war of attrition, until 2029, when the resistance wins, and conquers Skynet's main base of operations in Los Angeles. In a last-ditch effort, Skynet sends two Terminators back through time to kill John Connor before he can form the resistance (one to kill Sarah before John is born, and the other when he was 10, not 13 as this movie explains). However, the resistance sends Kyle Reese after the first T-800, because Reese volunteers after being in love with Sarah for so many years, and as a safety precaution, John sends a reprogrammed T-800 back to 1995 (T2 was meant to take place in '95, when John was 10, rather than it's release date in '91), because John knows Kyle doesn't survive the first T-800 encounter.
What's so conflicting in the timeline so far? The only problem, is the fact Judgement Day could only occur after T2, if back-up data on the T-800 neuro-processor were present at another Cyberdyne Systems location, allowing Cyberdyne to build Skynet.
For this version of the timeline to take place, Skynet would have to have installed false historical data and inaccurate "detailed files" on Dyson's involvement in the Skynet project in the CS-101 infiltrators (the endoskeletons, including the 800 series), and the T-1000, so as to mislead Sarah and John Connor. Also, John Connor would have had to deny the T-800 and Kyle Reese the real timeline information, so as to keep the space-time continuum loop in place.
This new timeline is as inconsistent as Gundam Wing is to Mobile Suit Gundam.
GoatMan
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leathelanime
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IT WAS AWESOME!
"Give me your Cloths"
"Talk to the Hand!"
::Grabs hand and and pulls it towards face::
"Now"
CLASSIC!
Man I was so impressed by the ending...Hell this movie was almost as good as The Matrix Reloaded....and that really is saying Alot since im such a Matrix freak....Me and Wuwu talk to much about that movie!
T3 4.5/5
"Give me your Cloths"
"Talk to the Hand!"
::Grabs hand and and pulls it towards face::
"Now"
CLASSIC!
Man I was so impressed by the ending...Hell this movie was almost as good as The Matrix Reloaded....and that really is saying Alot since im such a Matrix freak....Me and Wuwu talk to much about that movie!
T3 4.5/5
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SnhKnives
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Vancore
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hmm.. Well I thought it was a good movie.. but I think its because I never really paid that much attention to the details of the movies timeline in the first place. To me it was an entertaining fun movie that really didn't take itself as seriously as the first two but knew how to not turn itself into a cheesy movie. I actually found the jokes funny instead of dull and stale which is usually the case with sequals that try to lighten up the mood a bit without destroying it completely and then fail miserably.
To me, the story fit well by Arnold saying that the events that should have happened were only delayed thereby allowing a whole different faction of the goverment to revive the destroyed project effectivly creating a new skynet.. not the original that was destroyed in T2. Since the entire timeline was destroyed for the first John Conner a different future happened for the 2nd John Conner so instead of there being T-800's (Which were never made because of Skynets destruction in T2) the new skynet had them be T-101's..
I guess what I'm saying is that since the old skynet was destroyed and doomsday never happened a new skynet was born and now everything is different. T3 is just a different timeline created by the events from T1 and T2. Different dimensions and stuff...
"You may journey to the past, but once you do the future you knew will be lost to you forever"
To me, the story fit well by Arnold saying that the events that should have happened were only delayed thereby allowing a whole different faction of the goverment to revive the destroyed project effectivly creating a new skynet.. not the original that was destroyed in T2. Since the entire timeline was destroyed for the first John Conner a different future happened for the 2nd John Conner so instead of there being T-800's (Which were never made because of Skynets destruction in T2) the new skynet had them be T-101's..
I guess what I'm saying is that since the old skynet was destroyed and doomsday never happened a new skynet was born and now everything is different. T3 is just a different timeline created by the events from T1 and T2. Different dimensions and stuff...
"You may journey to the past, but once you do the future you knew will be lost to you forever"