And you thought End of Evangelion was confusing!

[Heero_Yuy84]

As a side note, I recommend everyone to watch 'Return of the King' (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0079802/) which, despite it's running time of 98min, feels a lot longer than Two Towers. Difference is of course than Return of the King is one stinking turkey and Two Towers is a gripping piece of film-making.

I mean, LOTR musical. What where they smoking? And why does Elrond have a halo around his head and on what part of the book did the great eagles airlift entire Gondorian army away from Mordor?

'Shivers...'

Heh heh...that's still nothing compared to Ralph Bakshi's infamous take on FOTR-TTT, which, while more faithful to the texts, at the same time gives the following

-Gandalf being one of the first animated characters to ever overact
-Legolas looking stoned out of his mind for half the movie
-Boromir (aka, Hagar The Horrible) running around in fur short-shorts
-Samwise acting like a flaming homosexual stereotype
-Aragorn looking strangely like a Native American
and, everyone's favorite
-The Balrog looking like a mutated butterfly wearing a lion's head

[Simpi]

-Gandalf being one of the first animated characters to ever overact
-Legolas looking stoned out of his mind for half the movie
-Boromir (aka, Hagar The Horrible) running around in fur short-shorts
-Samwise acting like a flaming homosexual stereotype
-Aragorn looking strangely like a Native American
and, everyone's favorite
-The Balrog looking like a mutated butterfly wearing a lion's head

I still think the low point of all these animated Tolkien films is the Battle of Five armies in Hobbit. In that case the director gives us a fascinating 'god view' of lonely mountain where black dots run across the screen.

Add in few crossfades of orcs (who look like Mickey mouse on steroids) running across the scene and we probably have the most unintense battle sequence in the history of cinema.

Oh, and that footage is also re-used in Return of the King.

[DTJB]

I'm starting to question Kubrick as a "great visionary". After watching A Clockwork Orange, I kinda had similar feelings. It was a pretty decent story, but I just felt that the ending of that one could have been a little better. I'm going to give the guy one more chance, I'm hoping to watch Full Metal Jacket sometime in the future. Lets just see what he did with that one.

I thought Bowling for Columbine was a great documentary. One of the things that got to me was how all the gun nuts keep on thinking that the gun was the only reasonable way to defend someone. Hasn't anyone heard of martial arts? Couldn't a person use his or her own body as a weapon? Wouldn't a knife be just as dangerous and get the same point across? And Michael wasn't doing it in the memory of one girl, I think he was doing it for all the victums. The funnest part though was the Corporate Cops segment.

[Simpi]

I thought Bowling for Columbine was a great documentary. One of the things that got to me was how all the gun nuts keep on thinking that the gun was the only reasonable way to defend someone. Hasn't anyone heard of martial arts?

I'm seeing that people don't like BFC because it 'distorts the truth', is 'biased' and uses 'creative editing' and numerous other reasons.
Wake up people. There is no such thing as 'neutral documentary' or 'tabula rasa' when real life is filmed.

Pre-production, shooting, editing. All of this means narrowing down the material and ensuring that the documentary maintains a certain dramatic momentum. Result is that documentary is far away from 'neutral' if it ever was so and indeed, neutrality is the first thing most filmmakers throw out of the window.

I'm sure that if NRA would make a documentary that would get as much attention, it would cause a similiar outcry from people like Michael Moore.

On a side note, nobody seems to mind that Hollywood movies (especially war films) use the same technique to distort historical events. (like U-571)

For Kubrick, I recommend 'Dr. Strangelove'. I like his works but I have no interest to push my beliefs to you

If you want to see interesting documentaries, I recommend the following:

Roger & Me
Triumph des Willes
Olympia I & II (though only beginning and end are effective mindfuck)
Coffee coloured children
Divorce Iranian style
Titicut follies
Man with a movie camera (old russian film from 1929)

Btw, I hate 'Shining' but there is one excellent scene. Remember the black housekeeper and how large parts of the movie show him fighting towards the hotel and we assume he is gonna save the family from Jack Nicholson.

No such thing as he gets the ax seconds after he enters the hotel. I know audiences hated that since it really went against everything that had been suggested in the movie (you could say that right there, Kubrick spat on the audience) and that scene is really the reason why you should watch it.

[Hotta_Bushi]

DTJB, Full Metal Jacket is basicly 3 stories tied together by the main character. Boot Camp is hillarious (only because I lived through it), but it is a very acurrate protrate. Nam is then broken into two parts, Home Base and The Field.

Everyone who've I watched it with loved it (of course I'm in the military).
Those that saw it before joining got a new view of respect for it and those that never saw it before loved it.

[DTJB]

For Kubrick, I recommend 'Dr. Strangelove'. I like his works but I have no interest to push my beliefs to you

Man, I keep forgetting about that one, very good movie. I didn't really understand it the first time I saw it, I probably wasn't paying a lot of attention when I did, but I need to watch it from start to finish sometime. By the way, was that an 8 women to 1 man ratio they said at the end of the movie, I forgot.

"YAAAAAHHHOOOOOO!" KAAAABBOOOOMMMMM!

[Toecutter]

If you read the book of 2001, it all makes sense.

As for Bowling for Columbine, that was not a documentary. Michael Moore is just pandering to the anti-gun nuts. Just recently, the son of a bitch gave out the unlisted private number to Lars Larson at a speech of his in Portland. Mr. Larson was getting death threats from a bunch of people who had no idea what they were threatening him for in the first place, other than the fact he was a conservative.

Michael Moore uses underhanded tactics in conjuction with rallying the stupid around him as a human shield. It is the same thing as the ecoterrorists or thetruth.com gaining support just by being loud and obnoxious, without any intellectual backing in their arguments whatsoever.

If you want all the bullshit Moore has pulled, go to http://www.moorewatch.com

[Nemoxs]

I thought Bowling for Columbine was a great documentary. One of the things that got to me was how all the gun nuts keep on thinking that the gun was the only reasonable way to defend someone. Hasn't anyone heard of martial arts?

I'm seeing that people don't like BFC because it 'distorts the truth', is 'biased' and uses 'creative editing' and numerous other reasons.
Wake up people. There is no such thing as 'neutral documentary' or 'tabula rasa' when real life is filmed.

Pre-production, shooting, editing. All of this means narrowing down the material and ensuring that the documentary maintains a certain dramatic momentum. Result is that documentary is far away from 'neutral' if it ever was so and indeed, neutrality is the first thing most filmmakers throw out of the window.

I'm sure that if NRA would make a documentary that would get as much attention, it would cause a similiar outcry from people like Michael Moore.

No, I just think micheal moore has a fat fucking mouth, He makes this film about everyone suppositly having guns and killing everyone because america is quote "full of gun loving hicks".

Besides, if the nra made a movie, and chased after moore with a picture of a dead girl suppositly killed by (umm?) a van full of rabid documentry makers, I would tell them to shut the fuck up too.

The point being, the movie was an excersize in stupidness, great, now you made k-mart stop selling bullets, I can go buy some from a dude that lives down the street for cheaper than I could at K-mart, congrads, you just made it so MORE black market dealers can go into business .

Whats next moore? How about how anime hurts little children? Or maybe how porn is corrupting our population.

*Side note: actually I checked and theres already been a porn documentry about it corrupting us. too late for moore?*

[CliffD]

Ten women to each man. Which made it a very popular idea to those in the War Room.

[Jebadia]

haha..indeed the bootcamp scene in Full Metal Jacket was comedy gold, and damn right twisted at the end of bootcamp...


Now lets all sing the Mickey Mouse song!