religon yes or no

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:44 pm

MinnieMoose wrote:Lyrs, lyrs, dear kid, you've still provided me with nothing. All you're doing is shaking your finger and going "you're wrong"

but you yourself haven't provided a single believalbe point as to why you are right.

here's another contradiction:
Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."
Leviticus 24:17 "And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."

vs.

Exodus 32:27 "Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, . . . and slay every man his brother, . . . companion, . . . neighbor."

I Samuel 6:19 " . . . and the people lamented because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter."

I Samuel 15:2,3,7,8 "Thus saith the Lord . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. . . . And Saul smote the Amalekites . . . and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."

Numbers 15:36 "And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses."

Hosea 13:16 "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with children shall be ripped up."
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also on teh point tha tyou haven't found any contradictions, i'll link yout to this page:

http://www.ffrf.org/lfif/contra.html

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:46 pm

I didn't believe it because of that. My dad told me that he didn't believe it and provided sound argument for it.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:46 pm

Jim Hawkings21122 wrote:
Lyrs wrote:
Jim Hawkings21122 wrote:
Lyrs wrote:
MistyCaldwell wrote:But evolution is just a genetic mutation...not a synonym for improvement.
i want to capitalize on that point. evolution is not about progressive advancements toward some higher being, it is about random, local change. sure, these random changes often can form new speices able to survive more efficiently, but that doesn't mean that the new species was meant to be.
Not to sound simple, or take the easy way out, but i believe that God created Evolution.
then the bible is wrong.
Not ALL just like 2/3 or so.........

really? how would you know?

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:49 pm

MinnieMoose wrote:I didn't believe it because of that. My dad told me that he didn't believe it and provided sound argument for it.

how would you know if it was sound arguemnt? read up more.

also, calling me a kid just doesn't make you sound like an adult, it makes you sound like you think you're superior.

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:51 pm

Think i'm superior? Nah, I don't do that. Do or do not, there is no try.

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:52 pm

Hawking wrote: – the possibility that space-time was finite but had no boundary, which means that it had no beginning, no moment of Creation.

I am more inclined to believe that. I think that since humans are born and die it's difficult for us to wrap our brains around some things. We think all things have a beginning and an end. It may seem impossible that something we can't conceive did not/does not exist. The same arguement can be not only used for proving but also disproving god and creation.

We're just tiny tiny fleshy gray masses wrapped up in a bony shell that evaporates in time.

The things we have proven with science were 'magic' to our ancestors. What did our ancestors think was happening when Mars came this close 60,000 years ago? Were they scared, amazed...could they comprehend it at all? All that didn't change the fact it was just a planet orbiting closer to 'our' electron er...planet....

I'm going to go check my radio for a tiny little man inside.

Jim Hawkings21122 · Post by **Jim Hawkings21122** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:53 pm

calm down people, lets not turn these arguments into direct attacks on someone.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:55 pm

MinnieMoose wrote:Think i'm superior? Nah, I don't do that.

again, you could've fooled me, and infact, :gasp: you did! congrats! and yeah, i do think i'm very funny, in fact, :gasp: i'm very funny!

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:55 pm

Dude, this is about relilgion, sooner or later it WOULD sink tko that. Lightning did that but then shut up thankfully. Lyrs is bordering on it. I think i'm always ready for it but try to restraint.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:58 pm

MinnieMoose wrote:Dude, this is about relilgion, sooner or later it WOULD sink tko that. Lightning did that but then shut up thankfully. Lyrs is bordering on it. I think i'm always ready for it but try to restraint.

i was never bordering it, i was actively calling you names. it just wasn't the apparent bitch, whore, fucker, sort of thing, but it was name calling.