Bush's anouncement

Simpi · Post by **Simpi** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:34 pm

[quote="sixstop"][quote]Ah, the benefit of hindsight. Same reason why people ask protesters 'how about if somebody would have removed Hitler before he attacked Poland and started WWII. Then they fail to point out that peace treaty of Great war was the main reason guy like Hitler could rise to power.[/quote]

umm. . .only this isnt hindsight. Iraqi regime invaded other countries already. How many more times should he be allowed to invade someone before extraction?

He attacked Iran with US (and France, Germany) consent, to make sure Ayatollah Khomeni did not get out of control. Hitler conquered whole europe from Creece to Narvik, From Bretagne to Volga (where he was stopped). Hitler conquered Kuwait and was driven off, with his army and country in ruins. (Liberating Kuwait was justified and I have nothing against it)

Before I see any evidence that he was ready to supply Al-qaida with WMD:s, I do not consider him any kind of threat to his neighbours. Attacking anybody would have meant immediate retaliation from US and end of his regime (and this attack would have received international support).

this has nothing to do with israel, and seguaying to it is stupid and obviously shows a lack of focus.[/quote]

I only did it because I knew Black Dragon would use it anyway. However, it appears BD only says he wants to aim his bazooka to some people and uses the most used argument ever 'f... you' to everything people write here.

Dark Dragon · Post by **Dark Dragon** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:43 pm

I am not a 'He' I am a 'She.'

Also, I only swear when I am very, very mad. If you wanna blame someone for my language blame my parents and the movies I watch... but mostly my parents, they could out cuss a sailor if they wanted too.

So if my language has offended some people, I am sorry. It's just I type like I talk, without thinking and what's on my mind, but I'll try to keep the swearing down to a damn or dang or darn, along those lines.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:46 pm

You guys need to work on your quoting skizzillz

And sixstop, you do realise that was me being highly sarcastic about stating the US & UK would plant WOMD (Nuclear devices). Thinking that either country would actually sneak in and plant these kinds of weapons, sounds like something brought about by propaganda.

sixstop wrote:
And planting weapons Just like those missiles fired at Kuwait (which Iraq told UN inspectors it didn't have, and succesfully hid the missles from them) were actually fired by the US & UK. (though 3 US missles did land in Iran)
I have a difficult time stomaching people like you who are quick to believe that all people in power are so quick to lie, cheat, steal, and otherwise cause mischeif. You who would actually believe the people in power would commit tens of thousands of people in harms way based on planted evidence and imagined hurts. You spit on the honor of the people who commit their lives in the british, american, and australian military who were UNDER FIRE from those weapons, by implicating they were planted, false, or shot at by their own.

Simpi · Post by **Simpi** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:54 pm

that only addresses a symptom. The actual problem is the participants are corrupt and use vetos as a maneuvaring tactic for political gain instead of whats right. Removing veto wont fix that, they'll find another way to try and get their agenda paramount.

Don't you think US does not use his veto. Frankly, people around here have been pissed ever since Bush trampled on Kyoto, AMB, ICC and other treaties.

I have a difficult time stomaching people like you who are quick to believe that all people in power are so quick to lie, cheat, steal, and otherwise cause mischeif. You who would actually believe the people in power would commit tens of thousands of people in harms way based on planted evidence and imagined hurts.

Didn't Powell use an old essay by college student as 'recent intelligence report'? Maybe i'm just too cynical in my world views.

You spit on the honor of the people who commit their lives in the british, american, and australian military who were UNDER FIRE from those weapons, by implicating they were planted, false, or shot at by their own.

This is getting ugly so let's pull the whistle on this one. I'm sorry If I do, but we will not agree on this issue so better end it.

and there's no point in not using them? I thought you just said that Americans PLANTED these weapons, and that Iraq Regime didn't even have them anymore? I don't think your line of logic holds up, there.

I said they would plant WMD:s. Scud or Al-samoud is a cruise missile that can carry a chemical/biological warhead (to my knowledge, if i'm wrong please correct me). In itself, it cannot be classified WMD (Tomahawk does not count as WMD either) and I never said. I don't know how many miles Scud can fly, if anybody knows please tell me.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:20 pm

The UN is gonna die, just like the League of Nations did before.

/end

Simpi · Post by **Simpi** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:30 pm

[quote="Lyrs"]The UN is gonna die, just like the League of Nations did before.

/end[/quote]

That remains to be seen. At least it needs a complete rehaul for future needs. Well, good night to all.

I'll light a candle for all the lives (no matter the nationality)
that have been lost this day.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:37 pm

Good night?

It's like only 4 here.

/end

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:43 pm

Lyrs wrote:Good night?

It's like only 4 here.

/end

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:47 pm

jonmartensen wrote:
Lyrs wrote:Good night?

It's like only 4 here.

/end

What's that suppose to mean?

/end

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:51 pm

that it's a situation exactly opposite of whoosh