Satan himself could not create a beverage more vile.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:41 am

Frankly EC, I like those people. Just less people that are susceptible to becoming drunks.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:50 am

earthcurrent wrote:
kthulhu wrote:You dissing Tsingtao, motherfucker?!

I'll cut you and your ancestors' ghosts!
Perhaps I should have been more concise with my wording...

I'm dissing people who hate beer because all they've tried is cheap ass shit, not people who have found one they enjoy.

Ahh, very well then...

*puts down bent butterknife*

But yes, people who hate beer because they've only tried the cheap shit (due to economic reasons and the poor judgement of the hobo they pay to buy it) are stupid. Ass for brains, brains for ass!

gadoo · Post by **gadoo** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 2:41 am

earthcurrent wrote:
Why is it I always feel that people shape their first opinions of beer after drinking particularly cheap ass crap like Natural Ice or Molson's.

Take the time to find a well made brew.

hmm....I've tried corona..and um...not bud...um another one...I didn't like the taste at all yukky!

and does anyone know of that asian one I liked? it's dark a bit reddish? anyone?

(NERD Studios) Arturo · Post by **(NERD Studios) Arturo** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:38 pm

Smirnov (nof? sp? damn russians) Triple Black is the shit. Still, if I'm trying to get drunk I just stick to the liqour.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:46 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:Frankly EC, I like those people. Just less people that are susceptible to becoming drunks.

There is such a thing as responsible drinking. I will not argue that I have not demonstrated that I occasionally drink too much, but it is certainly not difficult to enjoy alcohol with out becoming a drunkard.

Roke · Post by **Roke** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:49 pm

But that doesn't mean that the good of light drinkers overwhelms the bad of heavy drinkers.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 2:08 pm

Roke wrote:But that doesn't mean that the good of light drinkers overwhelms the bad of heavy drinkers.

True, true. But one striking feature of drinking...is that it is essentially a social act. The solitary drinker, so dominant an image in relation to alcohol in the United States, is virtually unknown in other countries. Many cultures teach their young to drink moderately and responsibly. So if we look at those cultures where drinking is integrated into religious rites and social customs, where the place and manner of consumption are regulated by tradition and where, self-control, sociability, and "knowing how to hold one's liquor" are matters of manly pride (i.e not falling down after one drink), alcoholism problems are typically at a minimum.

On the other hand, in those cultures where alcohol has been but recently introduced and has not become a part of pre-existing institutions, where no prescribed patterns of behavior exist when `under the influence,' where alcohol has been used by a dominant group the better to exploit a subject group, and where controls are new, legal, and prohibitionist, superseding traditional social regulation of an activity which previously has been accepted practice, one finds deviant, unacceptable and asocial behavior, as well as chronic disabling alcoholism. In cultures where ambivalent attitudes toward drinking prevail, the incidence of alcoholism is also high.

Moderate-Drinking Cultures
Alcohol consumption is accepted and is governed by social custom, so that people learn constructive norms for drinking behavior.

The existence of good and bad styles of drinking, and the differences between them, are explicitly taught.

Alcohol is not seen as obviating personal control; skills for consuming alcohol responsibly are taught, and drunken misbehavior is disapproved and sanctioned.

Immoderate-Drinking Cultures
Drinking is not governed by agreed-upon social standards, so that drinkers are on their own or must rely on the peer group for norms.

Drinking is disapproved and abstinence encouraged, leaving those who do drink without a model of social drinking to imitate; they thus have a proclivity to drink excessively.

Alcohol is seen as overpowering the individual's capacity for self-management, so that drinking is in itself an excuse for excess.

Propyro · Post by **Propyro** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 3:35 pm

YEa, EC is right, how your brought up around alcohol has a pretty big impact on how you behave around it. Eg, me, I can't think of a day where i haven't seen alcohol lying around my house. Becasue of that and how my parent's had educated me about it i really couldn't care less aobut alcohol. One of my friends on the other hand was brought up with the mentality that alcohol should be avoided and he ws "sheltered" from it for a while ... now he's quite a heavy drinker when ever he gets the chance.

But as for beer, i'm not a big fan of it. Exspecialy corona ... with the clear bottels ... it just reminds me of bottled piss. If i drink something it's because i like how it tastes, i haven't found a beer that tastes good to me yet, and i don't plan on looking very far for one. Now Kaluah(sp?) on the other hand is a different story ... that stuff actualy tastes good, exspecialy with milk ... tastes just like chocolate milk ...

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 5:27 pm

Well, my dad and brother are both raving drunks now... so I've got a little grudge against it. I also hate how damn expensive it is... for the amount they drink at least. But there's still some alcoholic drinks that I don't mind at all.

EarthCurrent wrote:There is such a thing as responsible drinking. I will not argue that I have not demonstrated that I occasionally drink too much, but it is certainly not difficult to enjoy alcohol with out becoming a drunkard.

I've met one responsible drinker in my life. Out of about 15 that I know pretty well. But yeah, I won't deny that that's true and that the primary function is social. Ah well... I'm not going to try and stop anyone from drinking, it's just that most people that do so around me disgust me after a while. At first, it's pretty damn funny though.

EarthCurrent · Post by **EarthCurrent** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:01 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:I've met one responsible drinker in my life. Out of about 15 that I know pretty well. But yeah, I won't deny that that's true and that the primary function is social. Ah well... I'm not going to try and stop anyone from drinking, it's just that most people that do so around me disgust me after a while. At first, it's pretty damn funny though.

As I was discussing earlier, personally, I blame America's culture of intolerance toward alcohol and that fact that most people do not know how to use alcohol properly without regularly over indulging (even I am guilty of this

).