The Terminator got reprogrammed, didn't he? Wouldn't it make sense for John to think "hmm, you know, the last Terminator that we reprogrammed and sent back was kind of a dumbass. Maybe we should program the next one to blend in a little better and not randomly beat the crap out of people" and pass that thought along to his wife? Of course, Katherine doesn't necessarily know Spanish, but she would remember where people kept their car keys, and she was the one who did the reprogramming so everything kind of fits.Toecutter wrote: Watch Arnold's and Robert Patrick's mannerisms closely in "The Terminator", then compare them to "T2", and finally, "T3". You'll notice Arnold as the T-800 in "The Terminator", and Robert Patrick as the T-1000 in "T2" do an eye/head scanning about their environment, in which the eyes move first, and the head tracks their movement. The new T-X in "T3" has it down, but Arnold as the T-101 is too concerned with melodrama (the whole "I am a machine!" sequence is nonsense). Also, the comedic sequences of the "T-101" stealing everything from the gas station, or taking the clothes from the male stripper wouldn't happen that way. For the strip club sequence, the T-800 would easily throw the bouncer halfway across the street, walk in, locate the stripper, demand his clothes, and then break his hand AND pin him kneeling on the ground using his disabled right arm.
The "T-101" wouldn't talk to the hand, as he did in the film. If you remember the biker bar sequence in "T2", the biker says "You forgot to say please.", and burns Arnold's chest with a cigar. Arnold doesn't say please. He merely breaks the guy's fingers, pins him to the ground, as described before, and disables anyone who tries to get in his way. You also can't forget the T-800 in "The Terminator" punches one of the three gang members, impaling him with his right arm, when they try to pull knives on him.
Also, how does the "T-101" know that he must first check to see if the keys to a vehicle are hidden above the sun visor? That's something John Connor teaches the other T-800 in "T2". The terminators just punch through the steering column, rip the plastic off, and hot-wire the vehicle they're stealing. It's all about efficient, brute force with them.
One possible future that would make its own past impossible? Sorry, but that doesn't work.Toecutter wrote:To quote Reese from the first film: "One possible future, from your point of view... I don't know tech stuff!"
No, because it doesn't matter.Toecutter wrote: Did anyone even bother to look at the timeline diagram I put up on the web? Did anyone even read the pages of explaination about the space-time continuum, alternate dimensions, etc?
Incorrect. Cyberdyne and the government were in bed before Skynet was developed. That means information could have been shared, including info on the neuro-processor.Toecutter wrote: The fact is, if "Skynet" took over according to the new "T3" timeline, it wouldn't really be Skynet. Skynet was an automated defense network passed by Congress, and developed by Cyberdyne Systems. This new "Skynet" was a government-only run program, and has no connection to the neuro-processor developed by Dyson from the first two films.
I've been meaning to address this...Toecutter wrote: The "T-101" model description used in "T3" is something written down by an uninformed screenwriter, who didn't bother to get the proper information from Cameron, Winston, or Hurd. Instead, he probably watched the second film one or two times, got the terminology mixed up, and just threw it in anyway. For example, the T-X, if it's a newly developed terminator, based off of the CS-101 endoskeleton, while also incorporating the T-1000 mimetic polyalloy, and some bizarre nano-technology that could never work, it would be designated the T-1200. The "X" designation is something a crappy screenwriter or producer would throw in to wow the audience. Notice how humans always use X, or 2000/3000 to a designation to make it sound cool (ex: "Death Race 2000", Gruntmaster 6000, "Knight Rider 2000: The Motion Picture", Racer X, "X-Men").
The T-X is not a normal, mass-produced terminator for killing humans. It was specifically designed for the purpose of destroying other terminators - a trait that would only be important in a few select circumstances (such as those of T2 and T3). Ergo, the T-X is not part of the main sequence of terminator models. It is the exception, the extra. Why would an AI use model numbers anyway? Why would they be in such large increments (600, 800, 1000, etc.) instead of just 1, 2, 3, etc? The terminator model numbers display thinking like that of humans, so it is perfectly feasible for an exception to the main line to have an X.
People change over time, especially when they've spent ten years knowing that robots from the future tried to kill them and there's a nuclear holocaust coming and they become the salvation of humanity and blah blah blah... it kind of messes with your personality.Toecutter wrote: Yeah, that's really out of character for John Connor. If you watch "T2", throughout the entire film, he's already starting to take on the role of military leader. In the deleted sequence (which can be viewed in "T2: The Ultimate Edition", and later releases on DVD) when Sarah and John remove the neuro-processor from the T-800 in the garage, Sarah wants to destroy the chip. However, John tells her that they need him, and "If I'm supposed to be this great military leader, maybe you should start listening to my leadership ideas once in a while, because if my own mother won't, why should anyone else?"
He's had a rough day. He can't be expected to think perfectly clearlyToecutter wrote: John saw the second T-800 terminated at the end of "T2". He should easily have realized the difference between that model, and the "T-101". He even asks the "T-101" in their first encounter in "T3", "Are you here to kill me?", obviously realizing this is a different model sent back through time. But, through the rest of the film, Nick Stahl acts as though it's the same one from "T2", and asks "What, no 'Hasta la vista, baby?'. Do I have to re-teach you everything?".
That oversight was on the part of Cameron, not the creators of T3. Those endoskeletons are fucking heavy!.kinda funny how a 10 year old John Connor can help the T-800 up with very little effort at the end of "T2", but two firefighters can't even shift the T-101's weight in "T3"
There is no evidence that the power cells were damaged either time. The upper torso of the first terminator remained intact, and the second terminator was pierced right between the power cells.The system power cells in the first terminator films never blew up when they were disengaged, and if they had, they would've easily wiped out the endoskeleton, seeing as how a homemade nitroglycerine pipe bomb placed in the pelvis can blow the chassis into pieces, or how the T-1000 can skewer the chassis with a simple steel rod right through the power cell
The fuck?!?The "T-101" that was sent back through time was revived by John Connor in 2029 in order to replace the only father figure he ever knew, while John was still acting like Shinji. Of course, for some bizarre reason, John didn't take the time to reprogram the "T-101" while in cold-storage, like he did to the previous model he sent back to 1995, which eventually led to his death
What orifice are you pulling this info from?
Unless you heard the writer say so, that's bullshit.In "T3", the new director and producers were trying to make John look like a fucking pansy, and hint that his wife (that bitchy Katherine Brewster) was really in charge
