Whats your favorite car?
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Mopars are really the best way to go for quality (except for those crappy Dodge Caravan/Plymouth Voyager mini-vans, but I only dislike those mini-vans because of their poor-quality chassis and body construction). The Dodge Dynasty (as I have mentioned before), the Spirit, and Neon are all decent performing economy cars. But it's the classic musclecars (the Dodge Charger, Plymouth Road Runner, Barracuda, Dodge Challenger, Super Bee, etc) that really show the true quality of Mopars. I keep hearing from all the older guys that those Mopar engines are built so well, there's no limit to the amount of modifications you can do to them, especially the 440, and the 426 Hemi.
Anything built by Ford short of a Cobra, Saleen (or F-250 for the truck guys) is a piece of shit. Escorts, Tempos, Tauruses, Thunderbirds, Rangers, and F-150s are low quality knock-offs of GMC and Dodge trucks, which for the most part use the crappy old 3.0L Mistubishi V6 (a trend which started in domestic cars back in the mid-80's). GM was the only company that didn't use a Jap motor in any of their production line in the '80s, until they started building the Geo Metro/Storm/Tracker (the Geo Tracker is 99.9% Suzuki Samurai).
If you're looking for a reliable truck that can take anything thrown at it, an '82-'92 Chevy S-10/S-10 Blazer is your kind of vehicle. The 4.3L is litterally a TBI fuel-injected, small block Chevy V8 minus two cylinders. The engine puts out about as much power as a 5.0L TBI V8, and uses the same amount of gas, but with a better well-rounded torque curve.
Anything built by Ford short of a Cobra, Saleen (or F-250 for the truck guys) is a piece of shit. Escorts, Tempos, Tauruses, Thunderbirds, Rangers, and F-150s are low quality knock-offs of GMC and Dodge trucks, which for the most part use the crappy old 3.0L Mistubishi V6 (a trend which started in domestic cars back in the mid-80's). GM was the only company that didn't use a Jap motor in any of their production line in the '80s, until they started building the Geo Metro/Storm/Tracker (the Geo Tracker is 99.9% Suzuki Samurai).
If you're looking for a reliable truck that can take anything thrown at it, an '82-'92 Chevy S-10/S-10 Blazer is your kind of vehicle. The 4.3L is litterally a TBI fuel-injected, small block Chevy V8 minus two cylinders. The engine puts out about as much power as a 5.0L TBI V8, and uses the same amount of gas, but with a better well-rounded torque curve.
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kthulhu wrote:Agreed on the Impala. I also like the Caprice, especially the 80s versions, but those are dying out .
Nothing says "ROAD AUTHORITY" like a massive 80s Chevy Caprice.
The Cavalier me and klinky have is a pretty nice little vehicle. And it's ours, all ours!
The vehicle I would most like to own: a GENUINE Hummer, not that shitty H2 bastardization. I hate the H2, hate it with a vengeance. Or a German diesel BMW or Benz.
Dude a massive 80s caprice is a midsize version of a 1970s caprice ! Its virtually tiny in comparison!
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Wtf Acura is just a rebadged nissan! Let's not make this a my car is better than yours thread. I love american cars and I lament the fact that car styling today looks like poop.LightningCountX wrote:I dont trust american cars :\. I like acura though, only american cars i trust. I want an Integra type R V-Tech DAMNIT!!!!
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Toecutter wrote:As bad as this sounds, the best all-American platform to customize on a budget for mild street performance would be an '88-'93 Dodge Dynasty/Chrysler New Yorker, or the mid-sized versions, the Dodge Spirit/Plymouth Acclaim.
The mid-sized and full-sized cars are sturdy chassis-based vehicles. Except for the crappy 3.0L Mistubishi engine option, the remaining available engines are all Mopar (the 2.2L I-4, 2.5L I-4, 3.3L V6, and the rare 3.8L V6). For some of the Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth mid and full-sized cars, the 2.2L and 2.5L were turbocharged (the Turbo III models were only produced in Mexico, using a MPFI system, while the Turbo I and Turbo II systems were all-American, TBI engines).
The 2.5L is the most reliable engine ever created! I've run a Dodge Dynasty with the 2.5L with barely any coolant for 5 miles, to the point the engine shut down, and after the cylinder head gasket was replaced, and fluid refilled, the engine was in perfect working order again. The 2.5L is basically a stroked version of the 2.2L, with shorter flat-top pistons. This engine, naturally aspirated, puts out 137 lb-ft of torque at 2800 rpm, with just over 110 hp around the 4000's.
There's not much performance-wise one can do to the 2.5L, which is by far the best choice (the 3.3L and 3.8L have way too many reliability issues to be a decent daily driver engine). However, with a simple ram-air induction system, MSD Blaster coil, 2 1/4", mandrel-bent exhaust system, and tweaking the ignition timing to 15º BTDC, a 20-30 hp gain should be achieved.
Given the vehicle's weight (around 2,800 lbs), the optional computer adjusted air-ride suspension system found on quite a few of these vehicles, and the ease of swapping the standard rear-drum brakes for Chrysler New Yorker rear discs, it's the perfect economy/luxury sedan for performance modifications. If the external chrome and stock paint/emblems are kept, the vehicle could easily pass as a "grandma car", being the perfect sleeper.
Not sure what you are talking about dude but I got a dynasty with the 3.3 liter 6 in it and it has some nice pep to it. but the transmission sucks. It always has. It thumps when it switches gears drives me nuts.
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Heres a pic of the cars that hold the biggest place in my heart. My dad and Grandparents both had one. http://www.ford.an.pl/granada/
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Mroni wrote:Toecutter wrote:As bad as this sounds, the best all-American platform to customize on a budget for mild street performance would be an '88-'93 Dodge Dynasty/Chrysler New Yorker, or the mid-sized versions, the Dodge Spirit/Plymouth Acclaim.
The mid-sized and full-sized cars are sturdy chassis-based vehicles. Except for the crappy 3.0L Mistubishi engine option, the remaining available engines are all Mopar (the 2.2L I-4, 2.5L I-4, 3.3L V6, and the rare 3.8L V6). For some of the Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth mid and full-sized cars, the 2.2L and 2.5L were turbocharged (the Turbo III models were only produced in Mexico, using a MPFI system, while the Turbo I and Turbo II systems were all-American, TBI engines).
The 2.5L is the most reliable engine ever created! I've run a Dodge Dynasty with the 2.5L with barely any coolant for 5 miles, to the point the engine shut down, and after the cylinder head gasket was replaced, and fluid refilled, the engine was in perfect working order again. The 2.5L is basically a stroked version of the 2.2L, with shorter flat-top pistons. This engine, naturally aspirated, puts out 137 lb-ft of torque at 2800 rpm, with just over 110 hp around the 4000's.
There's not much performance-wise one can do to the 2.5L, which is by far the best choice (the 3.3L and 3.8L have way too many reliability issues to be a decent daily driver engine). However, with a simple ram-air induction system, MSD Blaster coil, 2 1/4", mandrel-bent exhaust system, and tweaking the ignition timing to 15º BTDC, a 20-30 hp gain should be achieved.
Given the vehicle's weight (around 2,800 lbs), the optional computer adjusted air-ride suspension system found on quite a few of these vehicles, and the ease of swapping the standard rear-drum brakes for Chrysler New Yorker rear discs, it's the perfect economy/luxury sedan for performance modifications. If the external chrome and stock paint/emblems are kept, the vehicle could easily pass as a "grandma car", being the perfect sleeper.
Ahh and lets not get this all confused a Dynasty is midsized at best and in the old days it was a compact. If you put a Dynasty right next to a dart they are about the same size. Of course the Dart is a better vehicle with its slant six and rear drive and superior styling. I like my Dynasty 3.3 it has been very reliable and its just now past 110,000 miles on it. A 2.5 in a dynasty would be a very underpowered car if you ask me. If you want a real new yorker get in a 1977 Model way bigger and whole lot better looking to boot. go here http://www.chez.com/yvincent/photo/chry ... orker.html A nice 440 engine in it.
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The 80s ones look more authoritarian, though, which I like, while the 70s ones look like 70s pimp caravans. I want "menacing machine" not "flamboyantly dated".Mroni wrote:kthulhu wrote:Agreed on the Impala. I also like the Caprice, especially the 80s versions, but those are dying out .
Nothing says "ROAD AUTHORITY" like a massive 80s Chevy Caprice.
The Cavalier me and klinky have is a pretty nice little vehicle. And it's ours, all ours!
The vehicle I would most like to own: a GENUINE Hummer, not that shitty H2 bastardization. I hate the H2, hate it with a vengeance. Or a German diesel BMW or Benz.
Dude a massive 80s caprice is a midsize version of a 1970s caprice ! Its virtually tiny in comparison!
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