The point to life: Do you realize...?

[MistyCaldwell]

you we are the only other species besides dolphins that have sex purely for pleasure

interesting fact no.1, that's all I have

Actually the bonobo chimp has an almost frightening rate of sexual encouters in it's species. They use it from replaceing conflict as a means of social roles, to just plain.....yeah.....like the dolphins.

Lord, imagine what the human race would be like if we evolved from bonobos ....though judging from the sheer amount of porn on the net...perhaps we did.

[theocide]

Do you realize that all we are is an experiment in natural selection?
We all have the urge to have sex right? That is because any of our species that didn't want to have sex in the past million years or whatever just didn't have sex therefore didn't pass on their low-testosterone genes. We have all this variation in our genetic make up because if we didn't, we, like other species, would be fuct if something happened that required deviation from the norm. Therefore, each of our differences are basically safegaurds against any possible threat to our species. If something causes everyone without this type of variation to die, then they die and those with that variation pass on their safe genes and that threat is nill. Do you understand? Do you know what this means? This means that the point of living is to have sex and make as many kids as you possibly can with as many different people as you possibly can.

If you have nothing to say concerning this idea then don't post.

its amazing how many people posted with nothing to say

anyway i do on the otherhand


The point of living is not to just "have sex" to "repoduce" to "live and exhist"
seems kinda pointless
if the sole point of exhistnce was to continue to exhist, how come we love? how come we hate, cry, laugh, fear....etc
sure u could come up with some "genetic" answrs for some of those

but love, i doubt it, if we only exhist to reproduce, then we have no real meaning for love, we could just have offspring and that would be that

evalution is a crack, a sham, they found the monkies, they found the humans, but where is the middle speices? sure they found VERY FEW things that they THINK might be part of the missing link, but its SOOOO few, and there is a distince lack of it, if it were true, how come there isn't LOTS of it? (ie bones)

also, carbon dating is innacurate, there was a volcanic eruption about 20 years ago, and after the lava settled they tested the area, it was dated at 2 billion years....intresting when it actually happend just a few weeks before hand

also, our DNA is so increadbly complex, its next to impossabe for this entire world to "JUST HAPPEN BY CHANCE" it has the same logic, as throwing a lego case agenst the wall and hoping it will open the box and assemble the set inside

our bodies are so complex, we could not have just APPEARD, not to mention our DNA is 95% idential to that of monkeys, and 98% identical to mice (how come we are very differnt from mice, because that 2% is a different strand of DNA that makes up a lot of the physical parts)

Not to mention millions of unexplained events that happen all the time
even though this post said nothing about God, it does have something to do with that, and I belive that god does exhist, and that anything else is illoglical, and cannot be true using the laws of physicis that we use to make these theories.

thats my 2 cents

ahem sorry it took so long

stop incorporating that mushy side into science and it opens up all things and all things are simple and make perfect sense

[theocide]

life in general:

You made a very bold statement saying that we are an experiment. And maybe we are, maybe we are just toys of god, seeing us rise and fall time and time again till humanity ends. But then again maybe there is no god, and we were a mistake from the start. What if humanity was never suppose to exsist? We could've mutated from some mixed cells from diferent plants and/or animals or something. And you know some ancient god or some guy in charge will never let us know. I mean we only find out this stuff when we are dead, and it could be proven that ghosts have limited contact with humans outside of grave/war/death sites. So basically we will never know all the things we want to know until we are dead, and are not able to speak it to anyone else. We wanted to know why we are here, and then we found out how we could reproduce, therefore creating everything you see today. It all comes together somehow...

Dammit man, I never mentioned god! That crock of shit was the last thing on my mind.
Again, stop incorporating that gay illogical mushy side into science. It just make you confused. Take the objective point of view. Don't try to justify the things that you want to be true. It's nonsense.

[theocide]

you we are the only other species besides dolphins that have sex purely for pleasure

interesting fact no.1, that's all I have

Actually the bonobo chimp has an almost frightening rate of sexual encouters in it's species. They use it from replaceing conflict as a means of social roles, to just plain.....yeah.....like the dolphins.

Lord, imagine what the human race would be like if we evolved from bonobos ....though judging from the sheer amount of porn on the net...perhaps we did.

Don't you see Misty? It is because we are sex crazed that we evolved so well!

BTW- nothing worth a shit has come from this thread. im sorry for posting it. i admit that i only did it b/c i was bored and now i am embarassed that it has turned into such a frenzy of nonsense

[MistyCaldwell]

Actually, that last part of my post was a joke

All I can add is that I don't agree with your arguement. (trying to lend some serious thought to your theory)

Sex is not just about spreading your genes in the first place. In social animals, it is used for various communication purposes. It can be a show of dominance when male animals (or even female animals) mount others of their species to establish and maintain rank. Even when you see puppies knock each other down and one stands over the other or sits on the other pup, it is a sign of communication.

In perhaps more philisophical but researched ways, sex is also a visual aid. I think looking at human makeup, clothes, and objects...is a very good example of this. However, wild animals don't possess the wonder that is plastic so they make up for it by developing distinct markings for gender and colorful visual signaling. The best example of that is the color patterns of a baboon's face and rear. ( Hope your biology teacher in college isn't a stickler for this subject kids, or you'll read all about this stuff too.)

Instead of going on and on about it here, you can go look at http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr20 ... .htm] this for a nice....long....exploration into the er...sex lives of primates It will give you explanations for many of the misconceptions you have stated about the evolutionary powers of breeding alone.

If you were really serious about your theory, I hope you read that link and discover a great many things you are wrong about so you can get on the right track.

[MistyCaldwell]

aww crap. I was lazy and didn't preview well, you can cut and paste right?

[kthulhu]

Bah, god or no god or whatever the fuck, I don't think we were meant to spend our time pondering why we are here.

What good does it do? The odds are pretty much infinitely astronomically against us that we will find The One Answer That Satisfies Everyone.

And what if we do find it, by some weird quirk of space-time-existence, and find out that we can't live up to it?

One could say that finding our purpose in life, our reason for being here, is the most important thing in existence. And yet, compared to the wonder that is just living, it is so insignificant, so utterly unimportant.

I think it's the least important thing. We are just here, for some reason, so let's DO, and not go crazy puzzling or arguing over the hows and whys.

One could assume that even a deity capable of creating a universe in a single breath can puzzle over their own existence, and not know.

What chance do humans have, then?

[theocide]

all that i said was perfectly correct. maybe you read what i was saying wrong. i was rather more vague than i intended so i can see where you might mess up...

[MistyCaldwell]

This means that the point of living is to have sex and make as many kids as you possibly can with as many different people as you possibly can.

You tied a theory about weak gene pools (like the elm tree or Cheetah problem) to being the base of the driving force of life. I am pretty sure the crossed hairs happened there. Also that wide genetic makeup is a good thing (true) but you'd have more genetic variations if the females bred with many males and the not other way around like nature tends to do.

I was trying to let you know sex is not all about making babies, thus spreading your genes isn't the sole reason sex exists like it does in the first place. True that life does exist on the assumption you will replace yourself, but....hardly....having sex with as many healthy partners as physically possible is a good way to maintain a healthy species.

You have to raise the young too, which is thought to be why men and women get together and have the 7 year itch. (Technically it's more around 3 0r 4 years) It is for the young to be raised and on it's own. A lot of resources goes into producing one baby. Fish spawn hundreds of babies but don't take care of them. On the other hand, whales take good care of their single young, thus ensuring the species goes on.

In my opinion, this is a good reason why your theory isn't sound. Because raising a healthy baby after the birth (with humans, a single mother cannot raise a child unless supported by others who replace the father) takes time and effort. THAT is what continues the health of the species.

[FirestormXIII]

One could say that finding our purpose in life, our reason for being here, is the most important thing in existence. And yet, compared to the wonder that is just living, it is so insignificant, so utterly unimportant.

Thank you.

I'm glad someone else 'gets it' the way that I do. I've always said the meaning of life is simply to live.
That's it, not some grand sweeping statement about the reason we were all put here. The clock starts ticking the moment we're conceived, don't waste it.