Prepare to fight!

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:46 pm

Mroni wrote:
Jace Tsunami wrote:like I said, naive.

you obviously know nothing of government, your mind is completly clouded by the fact it's our government, and there must not be anything wrong with it since it's ours.

*sense the sarcasm*

you're and idiot

And you know our goverment better how? You don't your mind is filled with crap told to you by others. You think I blindly listen to everything said. Bullcrap I just know one thing I would trust anything the goverment said over anything some left wing nut said.

Mr Oni

that's pretty rich dude. You can catch mistakes in EVERY other government, what makes you think if every other government in the world has problems ours doesn't? Look at clinton with his affair. He lied then, ALL presidents lie and make mistakes, they're human too.

Our country makes mistakes, if you want to have faith in it's government that's great for you. I'm sure it makes you feel more secure and proud to be an american. But to think our government is perfect is so beyond idiotic, it's not even funny.

Keep endorsing Bush, it's your choice, but the second he fucks up don't think I'm not going tor emember to laugh at you.

Mroni · Post by **Mroni** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:51 pm

Fair enough but nothing he does will make me hate him more than I hated Clinton.

Mr Oni

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:52 pm

And the same can be said for you misty

I am impressed that the both of you actually included factuall information in that discussion rather than hashing it out based solely on political biases and opinions. To many people like to make blanket statements about the subject they are discussing and just use opinion to back their statements.

Naturally each of you including only the information that is helpfull in expressing your view point and why you choose it, but that is only good arguing.

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:56 pm

Civil debates are always nice to see. I think most everyone demonstrated that here.

yay forum

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:00 am

Oy, how can you really expect any government to be successful? Society, in its most base and simplistic form, is corrupt. No amount of governing can change that. But, I like to laugh at our pathetic government ocassionally. And not because it doesn't work. Go look up the records on some of our revered Senators and Republicans. Ridiculous things you'll find there.

Anyway, I don't have any particular problems with the way our government is set up. But I do have some with the administration. At first, I didn't think Bush would be much of a problem. But I think it's clear after all this that he is. Gore, I believe, could have avoided war rather easily. Hell, Clinton could've easily. He wasn't a bad president at all, despite his... 'nightlife.'

Alright, well he made plenty of mistakes to be fair. Yeah, don't get me wrong.

But Bush... what an idiot. He has no head for politics.

I become more and more appalled and ashamed at our government the more I learn. But, this war above all is ridiculous. Well, there's been more pointless ones (if that's possible), but this... is just mind-bogglingly dumb.

I'm 18 now, I'm not afraid of being drafted or fighting or anything like that. I'm not even afraid of dying, but I'll admit I'm afraid of fighting for something this pointless. Just because there's nothing to it, nothing to keep me believing in any merit our country may have had to begin with. Ah well, Bush doesn't know what he's doing.

Too bad all the facts I know about this have already been stated.

I should definitely get here quicker next time.

MistyCaldwell · Post by **MistyCaldwell** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:02 am

Hey Flint ^_^

I thought you were dead you've been gone so long

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:06 am

What is this "WAR" you speak of?

I just think people should keep things in perspective, the only war that is going on right now is for TV ratings between slightly democratic CNN and slightly republican FOX NEWS.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:24 am

fyrtenheimer · Post by **fyrtenheimer** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 10:47 am

jonmartensen wrote:What is this "WAR" you speak of?

I just think people should keep things in perspective, the only war that is going on right now is for TV ratings between slightly democratic CNN and slightly republican FOX NEWS.

lmao

gotta love The Jon

akatoro · Post by **akatoro** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 10:54 am

Oooooh
I thought this 'U.S vs. Iraq' war was about USA wanting to secure their cheap petrolsources.

My opinion.. Is best kept to myself to ward of flames and whatever..