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Post by shaister » Thu May 24, 2007 5:13 pm

Koopiskeva wrote:
shaister wrote: I can't create animation of my own like they can :O
At least you're honest O:

AMV: We can't make our own stuff, so we edit other's. Yea---awwwww.....
I think you would see a lot less AMVs if creating studio-quality animation was as easy as editing existing anime ;)

And just to clarify, I don't think that making use of the emotional connection to the original anime is a bad thing. Reminding me of the anime is fine, it's just that I don't want it to be the only thing a video does.

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Post by Koopiskeva » Thu May 24, 2007 5:13 pm

Yokou Seishirou,

I was just using that question to setup the concept video thing.. |:>
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Post by Orwell » Thu May 24, 2007 5:13 pm

Concept videos like you've just posted are neither relevant and important to the community, nor do they advance us to a new position. These 'Concept' videos achieve nothing that a guide in using AE doesn't, as they have. no. impact. None. For us to 'move forward' in the view of AMV's, a 'new' concept is not needed. We've seen plenty of technically amazing amvs, True Fiction for example. Where in the community will you find anything FOR YEARS to top the effectsy editing of that? Your not going to. The bar is set, for now. So with our technical competency locked in, what other avenues can we look upon in editing?

Style? Perhaps, something like Skittles isn't done very often and therefore we have a new style of sorts. But really, to make something that's going to make a impact is going to be hard to make. AMV Hell essentially started a new trend in the community, but how long was between Euphoria and AMV Hell? Were there any trend setters inbetween? None I can think of.

So, with technical competency covered, style walking around watching the streets looking to pick up that piece that will rejuvinate it, what are we left in that we as a community have not delved deeply into? Story telling.

If you feel otherwise, please post examples, but I've yet to see a video that reaches out to the viewer emotionally and grabs him by the balls. There are some who will make promises, maybe a touch here and there, but nothing moving. As I'm sure most would agree, a good story is one that stimulates some emotion in you. But even if it doesn't achieve that, not too many videos create a solid story. And very, very few create a completely original story. Of course, part of the problem is that your story you want to tell needs to be contained within the potential of the anime unless your going to go all out to carve out a completely new one.

We do not need your concept. We need execution. To move forward a editor must step up to the plate and present to us a technical masterpiece that tells an entirely original story that moves the viewer's emotions, not his bowels. As proven time and again, a good story is going to be a strong selling point for just about anything. Or more fanservice. :roll:
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Post by Castor Troy » Thu May 24, 2007 5:15 pm

Orwell wrote:To move forward a editor must step up to the plate and present to us a technical masterpiece that tells an entirely original story that moves the viewer's emotions, not his bowels.
:lol: :up:
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Post by shaister » Thu May 24, 2007 5:17 pm

Orwell wrote: We do not need your concept.
I need your concept!

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Post by FinalResolve » Thu May 24, 2007 5:20 pm

shaister wrote:
Orwell wrote: We do not need your concept.
I need your concept!
Of not needing a concept?
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Post by shaister » Thu May 24, 2007 5:23 pm

FinalResolve wrote:
shaister wrote:
Orwell wrote: We do not need your concept.
I need your concept!
Of not needing a concept?
Not Orwell's concept, that hypothetical creator out there who he's talking to :0

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Post by Koopiskeva » Thu May 24, 2007 5:29 pm

Orwell,

That's cool. I'm definitely in agreement with much of the things you stated. Perhaps I'm just not fond of the use of people using the word 'concept' to drive what many people are really doing. Making effects videos, giving vague references, and people referring to them as 'art.'

P.S.
I'd also like to grab someone by the balls, physically, with a video.

..or without a video... What I do with said balls... well, that's classified information.
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Post by FinalResolve » Thu May 24, 2007 5:30 pm

shaister wrote:
FinalResolve wrote:
shaister wrote:
Orwell wrote: We do not need your concept.
I need your concept!
Of not needing a concept?
Not Orwell's concept, that hypothetical creator out there who he's talking to :0
I think the 'hypothetical creator' does exist not only in concept, but in the real world. Creators have made technicaly very good Amv's that move the viewers emotion, if it hasn't been done I wouldn't see Amv's the way I do.
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Post by shaister » Thu May 24, 2007 5:37 pm

Koopiskeva wrote: Making effects videos, giving vague references, and people referring to them as 'art.'
Uh oh, now you have to define art!
FinalResolve wrote: Creators have made technicaly very good Amv's that move the viewers emotion, if it hasn't been done I wouldn't see Amv's the way I do.
Certainly. :up:

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