When should a newbie no longer be called a newbie?

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 11:36 pm

When you've shot your first man then I'll call you a soldier.

In short, make an AMV that generally isn't viewed as crap with countless errors (I mean gross ones such as subtitles and unecessary fancy transitions, stupid flying bird)

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 12:03 am

_faerie_ wrote:50 posts and a amv

I'm screwed. No matter how many posts I get, I don't make AMV's, so I shall forever be called a newb.

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 9:31 am

damn, I never expected so many good replies to this...ok, where to start ...

jonmartensen: nice set of answers. That seems to be a good set of criteria.

Sub0: now that's insteresting answer.

Insight & RadicalEd0 : those are both very deep replies. I enjoyed reading them.

And to all the others that have replied to this wanting to help, thanx.
I now have enough information to figure out my questions. once again thanx.

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 12:02 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:I'm in the "the better question is, who cares?" camp...

Agreed...

Koopiskeva · Post by **Koopiskeva** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 12:31 pm

i think it's when you've mastered the use of ..

:O

.... then umm... something about amv and deals err.. stuff..

Insight · Post by **Insight** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 4:46 pm

Thanks!

Koopiskeva wrote:i think it's when you've mastered the use of ..

:O

.... then umm... something about amv and deals err.. stuff..

::grins:: Dunno about that...if you know how to do it, and do it excessively just for the sake of being irritating...I don't think I could call you a pro. ^_~ Still, thank yas for showing me how. n_n

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 10:25 pm

ahh, reminds me of the great golden age of spam and my days as a young jedi spammer
memories

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:54 am

Newb:

"i have no clue what anime is"
"I have no clue on what an AMV is"
"I have a life"
"This is cool, eva and dbz so rucks"

Pro:

"I know anime..."
"I have messed around with amv clips"
"I remember a thing called life"
"I hate how people are always doing eva and dbz videos"

thankyou.

/end

paizuri · Post by **paizuri** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 12:06 pm

What I want to know is, why does it matter? Why do people feel the need to make a distinction between a "newbie" and someone who isn't? If you are new to something, then you will be a "newbie" and there's no shame in that, but eventually you will learn enough and not be one. Or you won't and will forever be a newbie.

But even if you do learn a few things here and there, that doesn't allow you to ignore other people's arguments. Does being a "pro" confer special skills and insights that "newbies" will never have? Does it make you a better person? I don't think so. It'd be better if we all just ignored these labels and treated people on a case-by-case basis instead of attributing characteristics to them that they have not displayed. Because calling people newbies and treating them badly is prejudice, plain and simple.

MCWagner · Post by **MCWagner** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 12:32 pm

There is a good side of a label like "newbie," although it isn't used that frequently. "Newbies" are the people who might need a little explanation when talking about editing systems, codecs, contest submission guidelines, etc. Being recognized as a "newbie" skips the steps inbetween "question" and "answer" where a bunch of helpful people send along advice that whizzes straight over the head of the requester, and the requester has to declare "uh..guys? I'm really new at this. Could you please explain this in more detail?" It gives people in conversation a better idea of what a person might have seen/heard in our hobby, and you can talk with them on that level.

So, essentially, you're no longer a "newbie" when you don't feel like you need this extra level of help.