can we talk about these AMVs?
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Re: can we talk about these AMVs?
wait til you find genuine youtube AMVs.. it's screenshots/stills set to things like Iron maiden, Enya & Celione Dion... have a shotgun in handy.
Btw why do the crappiest videos win the choice awards? my jaw drops when it comes to this site's viewers choice awards.
A real AMV would be: "Bleed the sky" by "Tsukin"
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=20855
This AMV has been my favourite for 12 years.
Btw why do the crappiest videos win the choice awards? my jaw drops when it comes to this site's viewers choice awards.
A real AMV would be: "Bleed the sky" by "Tsukin"
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=20855
This AMV has been my favourite for 12 years.
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I don't know. Maybe I'm just really casual but these types of videos don't bother me so much. It looks like they're having fun and at least SOME effort is put into them. You want a bad AMV trend? How about videos that are literally just one or two long clips put to a song? Or poorly timed slideshows. These are the videos that make me twitch.
But uninspiring AMVs that only get attention and even awards because they use a popular anime is a pet peeve of mine.
But uninspiring AMVs that only get attention and even awards because they use a popular anime is a pet peeve of mine.
I saw that video at Boston and thought it was fun to watch. Personally, I've seen worse win.Chiikaboom wrote:im so sorry about that video it shouldnt even exist i hate it more than i hate myselfCrackTheSky wrote:Also, don't forget about Attack of the Otaku, which was released the following year. Between these two videos, both by well-known editors, both using extremely popular anime, both using pop music and fun, happy scenes -- whether or not modern editors are even aware of them, both videos influenced a whole generation of editors that went on to influence the next generation (today's? I don't know how long a "generation" in this fandom would be).
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I feel inclined to post here...
Haven't really been watching that many AMVs for awhile now.. I do watch them in spurts around convention times, but generally not throughout the years - since 2008-ish? I know of these videos having existed for some time now... but I didn't realize they have really persisted over the years. I feel somewhat responsible, (sorta)proud, but mostly amused that these continue to be made (and that they're referred to as 'candy videos' makes it even more hilarious).
Now I'm not saying I'm taking 'credit' for these - as Crackerz has said, Skittles just came about at the right time to influence a large mass of people (Youtube blowing up, Haruhi being super popular, etc.). Before being taking down by the Youtube copyrighted removal spree around 2010, it had about 5 million views and counting (no idea how much it would be now). During the time of its original upload (even years after) it was uploaded several many times - heck at one point it was even the first video hit when searching for 'Skittles' on either Youtube or Google, before even the actual Skittles commercials and such. I remember reading many very confused comments about it.
For the most part though, I do view these mostly as a fun technical exercise for those editing it. As with any other editing trend that I've witnessed in the AMV-world, the newer folks just want to use that same editing concept and try it out themselves. Nothing wrong with it, nothing to take too seriously. That being said, I'm not taking all credit for this kind of concept or videos. The style was already slowly being integrated into the AMV community and I just took it to a level that was more accessible to a lot more people at the time. In general too, I do separate my video from these simply because mine has a more concrete concept - something these random fun/technical exercises usually lack.
Basically, I blame Chiikaboom. |:
Haven't really been watching that many AMVs for awhile now.. I do watch them in spurts around convention times, but generally not throughout the years - since 2008-ish? I know of these videos having existed for some time now... but I didn't realize they have really persisted over the years. I feel somewhat responsible, (sorta)proud, but mostly amused that these continue to be made (and that they're referred to as 'candy videos' makes it even more hilarious).
Now I'm not saying I'm taking 'credit' for these - as Crackerz has said, Skittles just came about at the right time to influence a large mass of people (Youtube blowing up, Haruhi being super popular, etc.). Before being taking down by the Youtube copyrighted removal spree around 2010, it had about 5 million views and counting (no idea how much it would be now). During the time of its original upload (even years after) it was uploaded several many times - heck at one point it was even the first video hit when searching for 'Skittles' on either Youtube or Google, before even the actual Skittles commercials and such. I remember reading many very confused comments about it.
For the most part though, I do view these mostly as a fun technical exercise for those editing it. As with any other editing trend that I've witnessed in the AMV-world, the newer folks just want to use that same editing concept and try it out themselves. Nothing wrong with it, nothing to take too seriously. That being said, I'm not taking all credit for this kind of concept or videos. The style was already slowly being integrated into the AMV community and I just took it to a level that was more accessible to a lot more people at the time. In general too, I do separate my video from these simply because mine has a more concrete concept - something these random fun/technical exercises usually lack.
Basically, I blame Chiikaboom. |:
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Re: can we talk about these AMVs?
In related news... I am actually (painstakingly) working on (kinda)skittles 2.0...
Doubtful anyone would imitate this one though in large numbers...
Doubtful anyone would imitate this one though in large numbers...
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the text!!! *stabs eyes* lolKoopiskeva wrote:In related news... I am actually (painstakingly) working on (kinda)skittles 2.0...
Doubtful anyone would imitate this one though in large numbers...
FINISH IT!!!
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Its like you say, 10/10 on masking and effort, but the AMV didn't feel like it had much going for it beyond the pretty colors.seasons wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bytasIxDivI
I enjoyed these two actually. The 3rd one had sync up the wazzoo, a level of patience, musical skill, and technical skill that is rarely seen. The 2nd one was fine because it was short. It was a part of a MEP that I didn't really feel like watching all the way through though...
Superficially, yes, all three look the same. But I think I can make a solid distinction on the precise sync that was delivered in the latter two AMVs. For example, the 3rd one actually had injokes with regards to the anime that it used. (Either that... or I'm in too deep.) But seriously, here are two I noticed in my 2nd viewing:Why do they all look the same and follow the same structure? I mean, do they look the same to you or is it just me?
* Lyrics: "Clap along if you feel like happiness is the Truth" -> set to "Another". Lulz.
* Another subtle lyric sync: "Bring me down, your level's too high" set to Accelerator and Misaka from Index and Railgun. (Accelerator trying to be a level 6 in the anime, Misaka and him both being one of the few level 5 characters...).
Another point of the "Happy" video, the official videos for that very popular song includes this lovely bit from the minions of Despicable Me 2. Furthermore, the original music video (and the 24-hour version) was all about quick-cuts to lots of different people dancing.
If you consider the "Happy" AMV to be a combination of the Despicable Me 2 "Lyric Video", with the original quick-cuts music video combined with anime sync... it is actually pretty awesome. I haven't seen all the anime though it uses, but it seemed like a couple of them fit. Nonetheless, I agree that the dynamic typography was overdone and distracting to the video.
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fuckin bells and whistles for the sake of fuckin bells and whistles.
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Re: can we talk about these AMVs?
I know this thread is months old, but can I just say: my inner 13-year-old thanks you all.
Ever since I was a kid, I've always been an insecure AMV editor. I've been hanging around this place for, like, 15 years, but mostly stuck to TV shows with regards to editing. I never felt like I could keep up with the quality and innovation of other AMV editors, and I let that keep me from posting or finishing most of my AMV work.
I always had a lot of ideas, but I felt like in a world where 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' existed, there was really not much need for my modest contributions. As the years went on, and the works got more dazzling, I just abandoned AMV editing altogether because I knew I could never keep up with the top dogs. Maybe if I wanted to, I could have faked it and made decent knock-offs, but I simply had no desire to make those kinds of videos. I even ended up doing my own "candy" video for Buffy the Vampire Slayer just to see if I could get anywhere near what I was seeing be made here. I think my riff on the style was pretty polished, and I loved the challenge, but it wasn't innovative, and I had zero desire to ever make anything like it again.
It's refreshing to see that people are still very much interested in substance over style. 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' were and are still amazing because they so masterfully mesh both style and substance. Koopiskeva is a true innovator. But I think I had to reconcile for myself that I'm not, and that is okay. Being an excellent craftsman or journeyman is fine if that's what you're interested in, and making a simple, powerful statement is much better than making migraine-inducing rainbow-vomit that seems to only exist to engage everyone's inner speed freak.
Clearly, I've wasted far too much of my young life focusing on what other people were doing, and not enough time focusing on making videos that I enjoy making. Lesson learned.
Now off to finish the five Cowboy Bebop videos I've been sitting on for the last eight years.
Ever since I was a kid, I've always been an insecure AMV editor. I've been hanging around this place for, like, 15 years, but mostly stuck to TV shows with regards to editing. I never felt like I could keep up with the quality and innovation of other AMV editors, and I let that keep me from posting or finishing most of my AMV work.
I always had a lot of ideas, but I felt like in a world where 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' existed, there was really not much need for my modest contributions. As the years went on, and the works got more dazzling, I just abandoned AMV editing altogether because I knew I could never keep up with the top dogs. Maybe if I wanted to, I could have faked it and made decent knock-offs, but I simply had no desire to make those kinds of videos. I even ended up doing my own "candy" video for Buffy the Vampire Slayer just to see if I could get anywhere near what I was seeing be made here. I think my riff on the style was pretty polished, and I loved the challenge, but it wasn't innovative, and I had zero desire to ever make anything like it again.
It's refreshing to see that people are still very much interested in substance over style. 'Euphoria' and 'Skittles' were and are still amazing because they so masterfully mesh both style and substance. Koopiskeva is a true innovator. But I think I had to reconcile for myself that I'm not, and that is okay. Being an excellent craftsman or journeyman is fine if that's what you're interested in, and making a simple, powerful statement is much better than making migraine-inducing rainbow-vomit that seems to only exist to engage everyone's inner speed freak.
Clearly, I've wasted far too much of my young life focusing on what other people were doing, and not enough time focusing on making videos that I enjoy making. Lesson learned.
Now off to finish the five Cowboy Bebop videos I've been sitting on for the last eight years.