How to use Divx as a AMV creator

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Fri May 30, 2003 11:12 pm

I wasn't referring to parameter tweaking alone as bullshit. I was referring to the entire process of going from one program to another to another just to export your video after it's been finished. AVIsynth and DVD2AVI are pain in the ass enough prior to the process.

Maximo · Post by **Maximo** » Fri May 30, 2003 11:13 pm

Yes U R Stupid!
Just playin. I havent tried Xvid yet i have tried to stay away from it but im going to try a couple of versons wit my new vid.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat May 31, 2003 1:06 am

A word of advice when using XviD: use noise reduction.

Maximo · Post by **Maximo** » Sat May 31, 2003 1:07 am

Got yah.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat May 31, 2003 1:48 am

the Black Monarch wrote:I wasn't referring to parameter tweaking alone as bullshit. I was referring to the entire process of going from one program to another to another just to export your video after it's been finished. AVIsynth and DVD2AVI are pain in the ass enough prior to the process.

You use the right tool for the job. I do something like this for online distribution:

Cinelerra -> export Quicktime
Quicktime file -> convert to uncompressed AVI via transcode
move file from Linux box to Windows laptop via SecureFX
VirtualDub + AVISynth -> tweaks for best quality/size ratio
VirtualDub -> compress

(Preparing MPEG-2s for conventions and masters is, weirdly enough, far easier

)

Is it a long process? Yes, but the final result looks pretty good. I could far more easily do this:

Cinelerra -> export Quicktime
Quicktime -> DivX AVI via transcode

or, even better,

Cinelerra -> MS MPEG-4 AVI

but it just doesn't look as good, nor does it offer me as much control over the process.

Using multiple tools to do a job isn't something that's unheard of, nor is it that much of a pain in the ass. Almost all of this process could easily be automated -- the only part that actually requires any human intervention is the tweakage part.

But I'm crazy; I want to be able to use the best tools available to me for the job that I want to do. Meh.

*shrug*

Stoic wrote: I am crazy. I do MPEG2 editing. Everyone tells me I'm stupid, so don't listen to me.

I edit from MPEG-2 too, it works fine if you have timecodes

Denno42 · Post by **Denno42** » Sat May 31, 2003 11:07 am

Thanks for the imput guys. But I have just one more question, really just one more. For a beginner like me, what would be the best suited program to use to make my first couple AMV's? Thanks for putting up with these easily answerable questions.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat May 31, 2003 11:43 am

Adobe offers a free but fully functional 30-day trial version of Premiere 6.0

I used that to make my first music video.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat May 31, 2003 11:47 am

trythil wrote: Cinelerra -> export Quicktime
Quicktime file -> convert to uncompressed AVI via transcode
move file from Linux box to Windows laptop via SecureFX
VirtualDub + AVISynth -> tweaks for best quality/size ratio
VirtualDub -> compress

You're a masochist, aren't you?

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Sat May 31, 2003 12:16 pm

yes omg
good quality and being smart is so painfullllll

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat May 31, 2003 12:34 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:
trythil wrote: Cinelerra -> export Quicktime
Quicktime file -> convert to uncompressed AVI via transcode
move file from Linux box to Windows laptop via SecureFX
VirtualDub + AVISynth -> tweaks for best quality/size ratio
VirtualDub -> compress
You're a masochist, aren't you?

Not really. Considering half of the time involved in that process is me sitting around waiting for renders to complete and multi-gigabyte files to fly across Ethernet, it's actually a pretty lazy process

The most difficult parts are the Quicktime -> AVI conversion and the quality tweakage, and I've written scripts to do the former for me.

So, yeah, it's really not that hard if you know what you're doing