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Post by Pyle » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:36 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
Pyle wrote:I don't think anyone on this .org sees anything except in a negative light.

I don't think I was bragging about it. I was just trying to make a point. I wasn't sure what to do when I took clips from him, so I just left it the way it was and hoped I wouldn't get yelled at.

Knew it was coming. :|
If it makes you happy, I'll put it up in the vid description.
I've had someone do this to me, so I default to seeing it in a negative light. Very few people can *just* take footage, especially when they don't have the source and don't realize what is and isn't a native edit (rather than something the amv maker added).

Why did you do it? You didn't know how to handle it - but why do it in the first place? If it's FFX, you could have bought the game. You could have downloaded all of the cg scenes off various websites on the net. There's no reason to take them from an amv editor. Any anime or game that is used in one vid contains footage that other people can get (if you're using downloaded footage, you might as well take it from the ones handing it out rather than from your fellow vid makers).

I see no point in ripping clips from someone else's video if you're not going to credit that person. Unless he says "feel free to tear this up and cannibalize it for your own vids" there isn't much excuse for it - not when you can download the same footage from a fansubber or a website who *want* you to download and use it however you like.

Regardless, citing your sources is the least you can do. I'd never rip footage from an anime dvd and try to pretend it wasn't stolen from that anime (and the people who released it). If I took from a video I'd give that same credit to the person who went through the anime and picked out the scenes you just so happen to want for your own work. He saved you from having to look for it on your own, the least you can do is drop his name in thanks.

[The main problem is when you take from people who bought the original source - you're using something they paid to get their hands on. It's no different from ripping the audio from somoene else's amv because you can't be bothered to look it up on kaaza. The difference - you don't have to sort through that song to find the best clips - the amv maker combined them for you. It's a slap in the face of the one's you're taking from - and if you consider yourself a part of that community - it's more than a little rude. At least try not to steal from your friends. Now...if you don't see yourself as part of the community, then go for it. No respect among theives and all that. ^_^; ]
1. The reason I never downloaded off of any websites was because of the unbeilavably huge amount of megabytes they demanded. Some of them went as far as 200-300 megabytes each. My 28k connection can only stay on for about 7 hours, then it automatically disconnectes itself and destroys the download. I manage to snag some DivX versions from animetheme.com when I subscribed there, so I got off lucky at around 50 megabytes each.

2. I hear "With a connection that slow, you shouldn't even be on the .org" pretty much every damn week. I can only DL AMV's when I find the time to start a download on the High Schools T1, and even then it only goes at around 20KB a second so I have to wait all period for it.

3.I was fairly certain it was a native edit and completely unchanged because I have played and beaten FFX at my buddies house. Therefor I didn't think it was neccessary to cite the source. But, as I've learned on the .org, some things are always neccassary. :roll:

4. I download it back before I even knew the .org existed (for some strange and awesome reason, I got a connection that went 11 hours striaght), from his website (which no longer exists I've found).

Hope I covered everything. I noticed you have a new avatar. I've been wondering, who is that pink-haired chick? ^_^

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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:57 pm

Pyle wrote:3.I was fairly certain it was a native edit and completely unchanged because I have played and beaten FFX at my buddies house. Therefor I didn't think it was neccessary to cite the source. But, as I've learned on the .org, some things are always neccassary. :roll:
Then why didn't you just borrow it for the footage? Besides that, all cg downloads I've seen were very small, most 10mbs or under. For anime, yeah, it's big (56k over here), but not cg cuts, even ps2 games.
I noticed you have a new avatar. I've been wondering, who is that pink-haired chick? ^_^
Not that new - it looks very similar to my old one (this is just from the anime instead of a dj). And Kurama is a foxy male redhead - not a pink chick. ;p

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Post by Pyle » Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:09 pm

Godamn. I had a whole reply written out, then Windows Exploror 'accidentally' smashed itself and destroyed the clipboard.

To compress it into quick form, I made a long array of excuses and failed attempts at ripping PS2 games and said that I am basically shit with PSS PLEX and Castor Troy's ripping guide.

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Post by genestarwind21122 » Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:30 pm

DBZ is the most overused anime. And you can't help but footage to be used over and over again when it is well known footage. Now if it was a sceen you had to hunt for and wasn't a major sceen and then you saw it in there then you can deduct points from originality only if he used it in a very similar way you did.
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Post by Pyle » Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:36 pm

genestarwind21122 wrote:DBZ is the most overused anime. And you can't help but footage to be used over and over again when it is well known footage. Now if it was a sceen you had to hunt for and wasn't a major sceen and then you saw it in there then you can deduct points from originality only if he used it in a very similar way you did.
There is no possible way my video has anywhere near a smiliar meaning as his.

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Post by Pie Row Maniac » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:42 am

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Post by GohanV3 » Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:23 pm

Ok, so back to the topic, was this guy wrong in doing what he did, or is it legal, because if it is, i will eat my flaner sweats.

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Post by Calim » Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:53 pm

Well if your going for the Sites policy its very illegal but if your going for Law copyright, etc. Its not illegal in anyway seeing as the person who made the AMV in the first place doesn't own the footage nor does he own the music.

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Post by Eek-1 » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:36 pm

Calim wrote:...for the Site's policy its very illegal...
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Post by GohanV3 » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:37 pm

For copyrights i now its not illeagal, but to take peoples footage and only their footage, compbine them and put them together, in your so claimed 'self' vid, thats just wrong and illegal against site policy isn't it?

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