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Post by Garylisk » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:53 pm

I think my Kyo's Habit video is pretty damn good for an overused sort of song. *points to link in his sig*

It uses *big shock!* Breaking the Habit by LP.
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Post by Kesdiodrick Vankilion » Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:31 pm

linkin park is so overused its almost rediculous, that and evangelion and final fantasy vids with their music, although its pretty cool at times, just overly used and it gets kinda bland after a while
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Post by JMZ » Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:48 pm

mystryl_shada wrote: Beware what you say. Some of us are college students and can't afford DVDs or After Effects. I happen to have two vids to two of those songs you mentioned, and they're actually doing pretty well for fansubbed AMVs (Evanesence, Bring Me to Life for Takako from Pretear, and Bon Jovi's It's My Life for Yoh from Shaman King). One even got put on someone's favorite's list (the Yoh one did...the Pretear one was actually my first ever vid, so it's not too good but it still doesn't really stink either).

Sometimes I think that we poorer people really get the short stick on this site, because people always knock us for having fansubs or for using Movie Maker. I can get some good stuff off Movie Maker. Heck, I'm right now trying to get into the Media Arts major at my school to become a professional editor. When I get the money, I will definatly be getting DVDs and Premier, but until then I kinda take it personally when people say my vid stinks just because it uses fansubs and is done in Movie Maker. It's like saying only the rich can do AMVs.

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Amen to that! I've learned to ignore subtitles myself. Any AMV that is artfully done in good taste is a good AMV to me, regarless of what program was used, or even if it has subtitles. I am in the same situation as Shada, and I have no choice but to use fansubbed animes and Movie Maker. I don't think a good AMV is derturmined only by the use of special effects--just like special effects don't make a movie good. Actually, I think I'll cut and past my profile in here, since it deals with this subject:

I'm not a person who enjoys over-edited AMVs much. Fancy effects are fine and a potentially powerful tool if a person uses them correctly and in an artistic manner, but flashy effects does not a good AMV make. Just tossing them in makes an AMV look messy rather than good. I also don't usually preffer AMV made of clips that have been chopped into little tiny peices and flash by in a siezure-inducing frenzied rush. In most cases, I actually like to SEE what I'm looking at, and not just get a strobe-light style teaser. I agree this does work in some cases, such as a tense part in an AMV, but I can't stand it when the procedure lasts the ENTIRE AMV long. Having said that, here's a few comments on my own style.

I like to usually use a style that utilizes one or more of the following AMV style methods (these are methods as viewed by myself): Storytelling, Progressive, and Climactic.

Storytelling: The Amv tells a story with a difinitive beginning, middle, and end, usually with a conclusion. A viewer should come away from the AMV with some idea of a chronology of events, or at least an idea of what had happened to who and why. Cause and Effect are a big part of this style method.

Progressive: The subject progresses as the AMV continues. For example, a character gets stronger and the AMV features more complex and powerful manuvers by the character as the AMV rolls on. Personally, I like to display progressive elements during song choruses.

Climactic: The climax of the AMV meets at the climax of the music. All action, character development, story, evolution, etc. comes together for the finale. This is usually the most intesnse moment of the AMV, and the most riviting. In a quieter AMV, I might use the climax to show of some action or drama. This is usually where I cut loose and have some fun with action.
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Post by JMZ » Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:52 pm

On another note, I will say that I don't mind at all the creation of AMVs to overused songs. If it's good, then do it! Everyone has their own ideas and would like to share (regardless of wither it is a good idea or not). If enough AMVs are done using a popular song, then theres a better chance of everone finding the perfict AMV to that song. Maybe they like the anime used, or maybe it's the style. As for me, I might even use the same song myself if I can think of more than one use for it. I don't get tired of good songs or good ideas.
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Post by mystryl_shada » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:40 pm

Thanks for the defense...It's really well thought out...but, get off your medication Zelda, you're really outdoing college professors today. ^_^

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Post by inthesto » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:41 pm

With VirtualDub in existence, there really is -no- reason for anyone who's just a little bit serious about AMVs to have fansubs left in.

It's one of the simplest processes in the world, and there's a guide for it right on this site.

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Post by JMZ » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:04 pm

inthesto wrote:With VirtualDub in existence, there really is -no- reason for anyone who's just a little bit serious about AMVs to have fansubs left in.

It's one of the simplest processes in the world, and there's a guide for it right on this site.
On the contrary, I have only ONE source for anime, and it is a fansub source. I cannot aquire anime footage any other way. :(

But perhaps I would understand better if I knew what VirtualDub is. Could someone please explain?

And yes, Shada, I need to pace myself when I'm on meds. I get way to analytical. :roll:
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Post by demosthenes_2000 » Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:45 pm

theres a good one for in the end, its on sailor moon... Ok, I know I post too much about that show, but hey, its a really good video. Its on my favorites list if you cant find it.

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Post by mystryl_shada » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:01 pm

But perhaps I would understand better if I knew what VirtualDub is. Could someone please explain?

And yes, Shada, I need to pace myself when I'm on meds. I get way to analytical.
Well, I'm pretty sure there's something in the guides section back on the main site page. There's something in there about "how to get rid of subtitles". Personally, I've learned to tune out subtitles, because cutting them off often cuts off important visual footage as well. It's kinda the same way my mind has as built-in swear filter...I don't hear the swearing, because my mind tunes it out. My mind also overlooks subtitles automatically when watching a subbed vid.

Lol, you really should write your college thesis on stuff like this. :wink:

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Post by Brad » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:31 am

Lady Shinsei wrote:No idea if it's even available online anymore, but I think the greatest AMV ever to use Linkin Park's "In The End" was one that used some very dramatic and graphicly awesome scenes from Final Fantasy IX.....

(the creator, as I recall, was called "MeLkniN".....something like that)
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