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Post by kairi_sora16 » Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:23 pm

bum wrote:
Pyle wrote:The clear and simple answer is...you can't.

I'm afraid that if you have Vegas 4.0, that is too inadqueate of a program to use/create effects.
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i mean seriosly

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Ok, i wrote a basic guide to vegas which you can get here . I also wrote a guide to 3D in vegas (using the 3dle plug-in) here . Eventualy im gona get down to doing an advanced editing and effects guide, fixing the html, and not being ashamed to put the links in my sig :( . Till then, if you have any questions at all about vegas, your best option is to post a thread in the video help forums and wait for me or TaranT (I'd bet he knows more about vegas than me) to get here.
Thanks bum ill give it a shot
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Post by DrngdKreationz » Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:46 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
kairi_sora16 wrote: see i dont knowhow to do a masked footage
Read the manual.
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Post by Poetic_Kaos » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:18 pm

Real men don't read manuals.
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Post by dokool » Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:12 pm

Poetic_Kaos wrote:Real men don't read manuals.
But our thread-starter is a standard-issue teen girl. She can read manuals, she just won't understand them the first few times.


(*dodges oncoming flames*)

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Post by Moonzag » Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:58 pm

Poetic_Kaos wrote:Real men don't read manuals.
Real men read manuals if they need to, in my opionion.
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Post by kairi_sora16 » Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:57 pm

dokool wrote:
Poetic_Kaos wrote:Real men don't read manuals.
But our thread-starter is a standard-issue teen girl. She can read manuals, she just won't understand them the first few times.


(*dodges oncoming flames*)
by standard-issue teen girl you mean being able to shoot flames out of my hands then yes i am pritty standard-issue
~throughs more flames~
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Post by dokool » Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:17 pm

kairi_sora16 wrote:by standard-issue teen girl you mean being able to shoot flames out of my hands then yes i am pritty standard-issue
~throughs more flames~
So now that you're <i>through</i> all the flames, are you going to <i>throw</i> any?
Moonzag wrote:Real men read manuals if they need to, in my opionion.
Real men can tear manuals in half, especially the phonebook-like ones that come with editing software, but that's besides the point.

In another thread somewhere in Video Software Help (which is where this thread should be too, now that I think about it), trythil said something to the effect of 'I think if you're buying FCP, it's assumed that you can read a manual' when someone asked for a FCP guide.

The thing about NLE stuff is that either you know it or you should be competent enough to figure it out for yourself. Generally anyone who works in video started from the bottom and worked their way up (for me it was VideoStudio --> MediaStudio --> Premiere --> AE, you could compare that to TwoVCRs-->EditingDeck-->NLE or WMM-->Premiere). Odds are if you have to spend hours pouring over the first chapter of the Adobe Premiere manual, you're probably going to end up being even more lost when you get to the actual editing.

This isn't to say that there shouldn't be guides and that we should all have to fend for ourselves, because guides like AD's have definately raised the level of AMV quality as a whole.

However, there's a minimum level of competency that kinda has to be attained before you really start editing. One doesn't learn effects before they learn the basics, and one can't really learn the basics if someone's holding their hand the entire way. Newbies generally assume that they can automatically do whatever they want, but it does no good to ask how you can make Euphoria when you don't know enough to make a basic cut-and-fade vid.

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Post by DrngdKreationz » Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:16 am

dokool wrote:
kairi_sora16 wrote:by standard-issue teen girl you mean being able to shoot flames out of my hands then yes i am pritty standard-issue
~throughs more flames~
So now that you're <i>through</i> all the flames, are you going to <i>throw</i> any?
Moonzag wrote:Real men read manuals if they need to, in my opionion.
Real men can tear manuals in half, especially the phonebook-like ones that come with editing software, but that's besides the point.

In another thread somewhere in Video Software Help (which is where this thread should be too, now that I think about it), trythil said something to the effect of 'I think if you're buying FCP, it's assumed that you can read a manual' when someone asked for a FCP guide.

The thing about NLE stuff is that either you know it or you should be competent enough to figure it out for yourself. Generally anyone who works in video started from the bottom and worked their way up (for me it was VideoStudio --> MediaStudio --> Premiere --> AE, you could compare that to TwoVCRs-->EditingDeck-->NLE or WMM-->Premiere). Odds are if you have to spend hours pouring over the first chapter of the Adobe Premiere manual, you're probably going to end up being even more lost when you get to the actual editing.

This isn't to say that there shouldn't be guides and that we should all have to fend for ourselves, because guides like AD's have definately raised the level of AMV quality as a whole.

However, there's a minimum level of competency that kinda has to be attained before you really start editing. One doesn't learn effects before they learn the basics, and one can't really learn the basics if someone's holding their hand the entire way. Newbies generally assume that they can automatically do whatever they want, but it does no good to ask how you can make Euphoria when you don't know enough to make a basic cut-and-fade vid.

Can We get an AMEN from the choir!!!! :D

It makes my view point of "men read manuals so that they don't feel like a moron when asking for help. Because men don't ask for DIRECTIONS.. We should know the way ourselves and the only way we do that is by reading the manual.." seem rather dwarfed by this great response above.. Mad props. Dokool

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Post by Bote » Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:47 am

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Post by Masamune_X » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:33 pm

Dont After Affects 5.5 have them kinds of effects?

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