AMTV?

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:49 pm

I also would like to point out that although MTV's own show with video game characters is a valid point, it's not within this realm. First off, MTV obviously has a relationship with the music industry and those artists they showcase.

More importantly, all the videos they show are professional. They are done by the video game companies themselves (like EA) and I imagine they have a lot more pull (and $$$) than Average Joe AMV on here.

Not to say it's impossible, but the deck is certainly stacked against you. Especially lately...

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:58 pm

http://www.animefuntv.fr.st/

Org Profile · Post by **GloryQuestor** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:02 pm

Scintilla wrote:http://www.animefuntv.fr.st/

It's interesting to see that they have a channel (of sorts).

It's more interesting it's been around since 2003.

Koiyuki · Post by **Koiyuki** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:34 pm

Ya'll sure are a high strung bunch, aren't ya? Anywho, the only reason i said that (and started this thread) is that the quality of the stuff here would put most actual music videos to shame. And i'd nice to see these fine folks get some recognition from the anime masses for all the blood, sweat and toil they put into these things. It could even bring some unknowns into the spotlight (see KOOP euphoria) If only we could find a way to get around those nasty legal issues...maybe start out as a block on Anime Network?

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:39 pm

I don't think we're negative so much as realistic. There's no denying that there's real talent around here - in fact, I by and far prefer AMV's to the vast majority of MTV videos (which is why I don't have cable and haven't watched commercial TV in 3 years, and yet I'm on the .org daily).

But I don't think it's possible, given the legal issues - a mutual settlement between the huge companies of different interests, which is what is needed to realize this, is all but impossible here.

bum · Post by **bum** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:06 pm

Koiyuki wrote:Ya'll sure are a high strung bunch, aren't ya? Anywho, the only reason i said that (and started this thread) is that the quality of the stuff here would put most actual music videos to shame. And i'd nice to see these fine folks get some recognition from the anime masses for all the blood, sweat and toil they put into these things. It could even bring some unknowns into the spotlight (see KOOP euphoria) If only we could find a way to get around those nasty legal issues...maybe start out as a block on Anime Network?

The answer is NO. We arent high strung, but we've had threads discussing legal issues that span over 100 posts. Their's no way to get around it and theirfor your idea would NEVER work.

Kouga20xx · Post by **Kouga20xx** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:01 pm

Ya.. i have to admit i would really think that would be kool.. but thats just me and all these other ppl bring up unescapable flaws wit ur idea.

aguelo · Post by **aguelo** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:04 pm

Online streaming is valid? I realy would like to make a website with that option....It would be really nice!

Daniel_BMS · Post by **Daniel_BMS** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:13 am

dokool wrote:I swear to god the forum mods should just find an older version of this topic and set a timer so that it shows up on the first page once a month, then dissapears again after everyone's had a good look at why it's such a bad idea.

Koiyuki wrote:Well, lets imagine they found a way for the big anime companies and the japanese parent companies to be happy wtih it (and it can happen, look how MTV started up.)
What does MTV starting have to do with big anime companies? Totally irrelevant comparison.

Daniel_BMS wrote:I don't know about a channel, but maybe a whole new show for Adult Swim could work. Legal issues would be a pain and in the end not the best AMVs would be aired due to legal issues, however it would be a great start to actaully get AMVs on the air. From that point it can only get better for a while.
No. No, no, no, and no again.

You Are All Wrong Because: 'AMV-TV Edition'
1. The broadcast of a video with only cuts and fades and NOTHING ELSE would require both permission of the American television licence holder, the Japanese company granting the licence, and the American music licence holder. Royalties would have to be paid to all parties each time the video was played. Half of the 'Org can't afford Premiere, I doubt a $1,000 check to Evanescence 4 times a month is plausible.

2. The broadcast of a video with significant amounts of effects would require an ACT OF GOD, because the Japanese companies would NEVER allow their work to be broadcasted with such drastic alterations as masking, lip-syncing, piano keys, and so on. Allowing such a thing would not only violate whatever blood pact they made with their artists, but it would more or less admit that they don't intend to protect their intellectual property.

3. There aren't a million people in the country who like AMVs enough to agree to sit down and watch them at the same time for half an hour.

4. Doing something as brash as showing AMVs on TV would only publicize the hobby and force licence-holders to take action against whomever they see fit.

5. As bum has so eloquently put it, the RIAA exists. The end.

Now, can we all agree that showing AMVs on national television is a bad idea and go back to discussing more important things, like whether or not the Smurfs could count as anime and HU LIEKS DBZ N LIKNIN PARK?!?

Thank you, and goodnight.

I had considered all those points. However I still think it is possible. The only real issue is that hardly any good AMVs would be featured due to many legal issues.