Why do people prefer time to the actual vid?

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Post by AMV_4000 » Mon May 29, 2006 10:17 pm

Hinano wrote:lol who cares how long it took to make
if it sucks it sucks
if it rocks it rocks
honestly are people that picky around here? :roll:
agreed

i dont take long to make amvs, so i know how it feels to say "i made that video in 8 hours" and some people accually WONT download it just because i edit fast... so i've just stopped writing in the info how long a video takes... unless i feel like being an ass...

if a video takes you 600 hours and it comes out looking like shit, its a waste of 600 hours though.. but if it looks good, then more power to ya, i just cant see myself wasting that much time on an amv that people will prolly hate anyways.. (just because i made it)

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Post by Thorblitzer » Mon May 29, 2006 10:45 pm

I think that spending a short time on an AMV is a stereotype of noob creators. I can't tell you how many times I've found something that looks interesting only to read their info and see "This is my first vid, I made this in 6 hours LOL!! Plz leave comments." Then I won't download it. Just as people stereotype Linkin Ball Z videos and subs with new and probably inexperienced creators, it's the same for vids made in a very short amount of time. Sure, there are some very good editors out there who can make them very quickly (I think Brad DeMoss puts a week limit or something on his), but those are hard to find. So it's just a stereotype in the community about time.
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Post by JaddziaDax » Mon May 29, 2006 10:47 pm

thorblitzer wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:but unlike *most* people, AMV and video editing is my main hobby/job/anything to do...
I envy you so much.
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Post by Lyrs » Mon May 29, 2006 11:25 pm

It gets worse after menopause.








I don't really care about how much time you took to make a video as long as it's enough time.
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Post by Arigatomina » Mon May 29, 2006 11:57 pm

Most of my vids take a week of editing, or two weekends plus weeknights. That doesn't include preparation or planning, so I could probably plump the time up to two weeks if I wanted.

I don't think it matters for my vids. I've done at least one vid that took me months to make - that's working a few hours every single *day* for nearly four months. People still didn't like it. It was hard work and I got a few pats on the back for the effort, but the video still flopped as an amv. I've another long project that took a few months ripping and weeks editing, which didn't get any credit for the effort (even though parts of it took hours per frame) but was well liked. Then I have my fun=easy vids that are made in a few days which people like solely because of the anime/song/concept.

It doesn't make much difference how long I spend on a vid - unless I'm aiming for bragging rights for having put in effort to make something people don't wanna watch. It's the idea that makes the difference - whether it takes a week or months to achieve that idea, doesn't change the original idea itself.

I judge time only when I'm trying to decide on an effort score. I haven't downloaded many new vids lately, but I also avoid the ones that brag that they made the vid in 5 to 8 hours - like that's an outrageous amount of time. I figure anyone who thinks that's something to be proud of hasn't read many vid descriptions by the very popular editors - so they're newbies to amvs, the community, and probably editing itself. It's the rare beginner who can whip up an enjoyable video in a few hours.

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Post by gangstaj8 » Tue May 30, 2006 1:52 am

Beowulf wrote:What would be a more interesting topic is if there is a connection between bad videos, and creators who make a video in a week.
Yes, but it would be purely subjective, I would think. But I wish there were a connection, cuase then my videos would rock! I usually work on a video over the course of a month or more, but couldn't begin to say how long it actually takes me to produce a finished product, cuase I don't really keep track of that. I tend to be a perfectionist to a fault though, so I'll bet I torture myself over the smallest details for longer periods of time than your average editor.

I'll have to admit that I've read my fair share of "I made this in 2 hours, and it's better than my last one!" comments, and have passed up the chance to view such videos. Let's just call this "vid-screening". But I think we can all agree that there's only so much download time in any given day.
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Post by sayde » Tue May 30, 2006 2:13 am

generally, the only time I'll pass up an amv that was clearly done in a short amount of time is when it's commentary page says something like;

"This is one of my first amv's. I did it in a few hours. Hope you like it."

and you look down to see that it's a wmv file under 30 mb in size. Of course, I'm sure there've been some that were decent (or even good), but of the few I've actually checked out, my expectations had definately been met...unfortunately. But for the most part, the time spent on an amv really doesn't prove how good it is IMO. I've seen many great amv's that could'nt have taken anymore than 10 hours (total) to put together.

Another thing I'd like to remind people of (since we're kind of on the topic), is that just because an amv does not contain a massive amount of effects, does not mean it took a short amount of time to put together. Often times, it could take awhile just to choose just the next clip to use. I remember once being stuck on clip for a good month before I suddenly figured out which scene to use next.

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Post by theresaj » Tue May 30, 2006 2:26 am

I never thought how much time it took makes a difference. Well in a way it does, when you put time into it and really think about the song and the footage and such and that shows you really wanted to make a nice AMV, rather than one who throws together clips and a song so they can be like I made an AMV kewlz. You know? :?

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Post by requiett » Tue May 30, 2006 4:25 am

Time = Money
Therefore, they're just judging the monetary value of your video.
Durrrrr.

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Post by Cornwiggle » Tue May 30, 2006 8:37 am

Purge wrote:
If however they're using the time thing to comment on a lack of originality or effort the point becomes very valid.

Not in some cases. There ARE people who do just throw together videos every day, but some people really get some good ideas and try to execute them in the best way possible. And doing that it really does only take 2 days, and even if they had 1 million years, they couldn't make it any better. They don't want a lot of effects.

I think this can be told from the comments on the video. If someone doesn't leave comments or just says "Another one" then at least I assume that the video is just another daily vid, and doesn't really MEAN anything to them.

I think of AMVs as writing.

Some AMVs don't need to be long so they go faster to complete, but even though they're less complex they can still be good. And then there are the 900 page essays, which take a long time, but will still be good too, they just take longer.

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