Why are newbies so difficult to deal with..?

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Post by paizuri » Tue Aug 20, 2002 9:35 am

I don't think the problem is that these people are newbies so much as that they are inherently annoying. Even if they weren't newbies, they'd probably be hard to deal with anyways.
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Post by Drakkonn » Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:05 am

I am a newbie (As a matter of fact this is my first post), and though I appreciate everyone's concern over the topic of how to help newbies, I think you should stop posting things with newbie in the name and let us read the guides without distracting us. I so far don't understand a single thing, but I'm working on it, and I haven't had to ask a single person for help. Sorry, but I had to get my two cents worth in.

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Post by Melfina » Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:15 am

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Post by priuscomet » Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:34 am

Drakkonn wrote:I am a newbie (As a matter of fact this is my first post), and though I appreciate everyone's concern over the topic of how to help newbies, I think you should stop posting things with newbie in the name and let us read the guides without distracting us. I so far don't understand a single thing, but I'm working on it, and I haven't had to ask a single person for help. Sorry, but I had to get my two cents worth in.
unlike you, most newbies would rather ask a question here on the forums instead of read the guides.

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Post by ukogss0715 » Wed Aug 21, 2002 11:33 am

I've read the guides. What the hell is so confusing?!
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Post by Satori » Wed Aug 21, 2002 12:24 pm

I think it's a shame that a majority of new people act a certain way and it gets the rest of us lumped in the same category

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Post by mckeed » Wed Aug 21, 2002 12:40 pm

I don't know what is so confuing either. When i was new i read everything i can get my hands on about video in general. I got a legal copy of premire and played around at it to learn 90% of what 99% of ppl do in videos. But yet we still get questions like.....how do i put a clip on the timeline in premire, or how do i fade to black or fade to white, or how do i make a clip transparent. Things you can probally figure out by either reading the manual or help files or going out and buying a premire for idiots book or somthing along that line. Encoding questions are also asked as well in which the two most popular formats, mpeg-1 and divx, have guides written about them. Also the forums themselves have a wealth of knowlegde if you use something called search.

If you look carefully at past posts you will see all of these questions. We don't spurn newbies, just newbies who use this as level-1 tech support. My mom is verry similar in this respect, but i allways tell her to try three things before asking me the question. I must have cut down on her questions by 50% on that suggestion alone. You will learn more by making mistakes and trying things than if ppl tell you what to do....some of my better effects i learned by not doing something else correctly or sitting down one day and reading the premire manual.

What we will answer are posts in which the answers are not covered in the guides and/or manual. Like....."i want to create X effect and i've tried doing X and Y but it doens't seem to be getting the effect I want, I read the manual and it said do this but i am still confused on how to acheive the look/effect i want." or a similar question like "I did a X effect by doing X and Y, but i am curious how other ppl acomplish X themselves." Or the best quesiton ever "I want to learn more about X and i've read the gudie and manuals, can anyone point me to other resources that I can learn more about X." I mean.....what is the point of making a guide if no one bothers to read it.

I think the general problem is ppl want information handed to them and not earned.....not everyone mind you....but a large percentage of new ppl to the site.
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