Want to know the history of AMVs?

[Zarxrax]

I thoroughly enjoyed the thesis, although I couldn't help but to find myself quoted saying something that I can't imagine was anything other than sarcasm.

“The next revolution will occur when everyone begins making their videos entirely in After Effects and 3D applications!” Clontz predicts.170

I also found the sentance in the last part of the Kevin Caldwell page interesting, as well as the source listed:

Caldwell has recently begun to appear at conventions, although he says he will not return to the same type of AMVs he made before. 167Caldwell, Corral, Milo, Stair, and Thompson. “Anime Ins and Outs.

I feel almost certain that that must be incorrect.

[RichLather]

Hey Thor, where in Alabama are you a student? UAB class of '94 here.

[Kalium]

Hey Thor, where in Alabama are you a student? UAB class of '94 here.

Samford, he says.

[pen-pen2002]

Seems like you put a lot of work into this. I'll be sure to read it carefully as soon as I get the chance.

...it also might be worth exploring the influence that n00b tastes and n00b videos have over the general perception of AMV.

I wholeheartedly agree. A very interesting topic, the fact is only a small percentage of creators ever use the boards/cons at all, I didn't for several years until I became a creator.

[Pianos]

It is while it is reading now.
It becomes study very much. Moreover,
necessary information for me a lot is being written there.

English-Japanese dictionary is necessary so that I may read English.
Therefore, the thesis will be completed before it finishes reading

Thank you for the valuable information.
and gratz on finishing your thesis.

* I'm sorry by poor English *

[Farlo]

your english is better than most pianos. so many here that have english as primary language who do not properly use it.

good thesis, i applaud the effort.

[downwithpants]

very interesting read. i can see you put a lot of effort into it.

some comments:

you may want to mention that amv genres aren't exclusive or even really definitive. most videos include elements of several genres -- a creator usually doesn't go into a project thinking "i'm going to make an action video" but rather "i'm going to make a video to song x with anime y, and it will have action at this part, some comedy at this part, and some drama at this part. genres aren't really essential properties of amvs, but rather just a descriptive label to let viewers searching for their next video to download to use. i was just noting this in light of the emphasis given to amv genres -- since the section on genres is one of the first sections and is quite lengthy.

i think you mixed up jasper-isis' and foxjones' names in text citation, footnotes, and bibliography.

"With linear editing, the AMV creator had to record over a VHS tape multiple times, with the quality decreasing with each rerecording. Now there was only one recording onto a VHS tape, the final result." is a bit misleading. most AMVs made on a computer aren't recorded to VHS. you could say that AMVs made on a computer only need to see one generation of quality loss, in its final compression.



::checks <get 'down with pants' into academic literature> off list of lifelong goals::

[Kai Stromler]

"With linear editing, the AMV creator had to record over a VHS tape multiple times, with the quality decreasing with each rerecording. Now there was only one recording onto a VHS tape, the final result." is a bit misleading. most AMVs made on a computer aren't recorded to VHS. you could say that AMVs made on a computer only need to see one generation of quality loss, in its final compression.

This may have been relating to convention competition submission, which definitely required VHS as the medium back when digital/NLE technology started to appear. IIRC there are still a few contests out there that will only accept submissions on VHS or DVD.

--K

[jasper-isis]

i think you mixed up jasper-isis' and foxjones' names in text citation, footnotes, and bibliography.

ooo I was quoted. egads. x]

But yeah, you got foxjones and I mixed up. And if you were wondering about my last name, it's Ye.

[macedon]

Hey, some of my stuff was used, some of it word for word (as far as I can remember)!

It's ok, as I have in the original thread where I have posted that stuff said that it was public domain. I am glad that my stuff is useful =]

I guess I can now claim that I have been cited in a thesis.

Well, just if you want to know how I found out all that and possibly repeat the process for a more thorough result, just seach for Kevin Caldwell on google groups and the yahoo.com amv mailing list for all his postings. Then google websites for him. Also google a-m-v.org forums for all the stuff [credible] people who actually knew him said about him. Try to find as many other primary sources of information that I did not think of at the time. Credible secondary sources may be useful too. I am sure that most of the sources I used are still intact. Unfortunately, whoever posted that zip file did not include the linked files, which consisted of a few photos and all of the things KC posted on the net compiled into large text files. His posts are really interesting to read and are sometimes peppered with wit far less cliche and more humorous than this sentence. I have long ago deleted all of these things off of my computer.

Also, be aware that I deduced my information from the posts and websites the best I could. I hope (and I think) that I made no mistakes in the second version of the history, but I am not 100% sure. Determening credibility of information and consolidating it in chronological order sometimes became non-trivial. The first version is much worse, the second version (the one completed on the 28th I think) is much better and more accurate, superseding (sp?) it in all aspects imho.

Also, if anyone is wondering, I had insomnia, and did not sleep for a few days straight, so I spent my spare time outside of university classes compiling that stuff, too zombified to do anything else more complicated. I guess it was one of my obsessive-compulsive thingies.

I am also really interested in your claim that KC has returned to the community, albeit with different interests. I share Zarxrax's scepticism, though it seems he did participate in some AWA 2004 panel according to your bibliography.

I am also interested if anyone has either audio recordings or transcripts from the convention panels and workshops where people related their AMV stories and experiences. No doubt many people on this forum would be grateful if these materials are hosted, and bandwidth shall bring ye much honor. This goes double for anything with Kevin Caldwell, as any evidence of His Resurrection would be greeted by the Believers and give the world hope now that the Lord has Arisen once more.

Also, who is this "He Who Must Not Be Named"? I don't keep up with the AMV universe enough these days to catch a hint. No V-ld-m-rt jokes please.

I think your thesis is a good survey of AMV history, it has information that even old timers here may be ignorant of.

Self-demeaning-to-get-more-attention attention whore
macedon