How do you deal with long instrumentals?

O Sliggity Slice · Post by **O Sliggity Slice** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:14 pm

I can figure them out just fine, its just that I've never had to deal with a long instrumental like this. Also, blow yourself.

LightningCountX · Post by **LightningCountX** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:38 pm

OmniStrata wrote:Just DEW IT

Thats the same advice I was gonna give

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:41 pm

Sorry, you're not gonna be finding any miracle solutions here. Unless your instrumental is full enough to easily synch... or unless you got a story/concept for your whole video to cover that instrumental, just cut the damn thing.

Poetic_Kaos · Post by **Poetic_Kaos** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:22 pm

It would be easier to help if you were to provide the name of the song.

I only find instrumentals a problem when they are extremely repetitive. If it is a 1:40 of repetition it should be easy to clip most of the section away. I have to say this because it annoys me greatly, “Do not simply put in filler clips for a 1:40.” You are likely to kill whatever momentum the video had. I’ve seen way to many videos that died as soon as the lyrics died, that’s nothing more than one dimensional editing.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:21 pm

Poetic_Kaos wrote:I’ve seen way to many videos that died as soon as the lyrics died, that’s nothing more than one dimensional editing.

That's a good way of putting it. To much of this site is focused on lyric synching (IMO) which is not a bad thing it just often used to the detriment of plot/concept and mood.

As for your section there many diferent things that you can do, try experimenting with a side story. Instrumental sections give you much more freedom. See if this gives you any ideas: http://www.amvwiki.org/index.php/AMV_theory#Synch

Jasper-Isis wrote:I'd make it the centerpiece of my video.

Spoken like a true Instrumentality editor.

Tono_Fyr · Post by **Tono_Fyr** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:50 pm

Depends on the length of the instrumental, really, along with the type, placement, and the amount of footage I have left. For instance, a thirty second instrumental at the end of, say, an already three minutes long romance video, I'd go back, pick out some of my personal favorite scenes, then make them kind of a "memories" reel, make them black and white, synch them to the music and mood.

As for metal solo's, that's hard to say. The last time I ended up on one of those, I had to cut it back, because I was out of good footage. It really ended up killing the video for a lot of my viewers, but that's my fault for shortening a metal classic (The Unforgiven by Metallica).

Had I continued on, I probably would have synched to the flow and feel of the solo.

I need to make a new instrumental video, try to get it right this time.

O Sliggity Slice · Post by **O Sliggity Slice** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:58 pm

This is a relatively slow song. In regards to time and place, there is a 24 second instrumental almost midway through, a 35 second one near the end followed immediately by a 1 minute instrumental finishing the song. I only say that about the last 2 because they are different from each other. The first one is kind of muted and repetitive and the second one is a progressive blaring guitar riff at the same tempo. I tried cutting them down, but there is an underlying melody that would sound screwed up if I did.

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:35 am

If you are really stuck, remember that it is better to just fade out the music and end the video than drag it on if it is not working. (in other words, the "behind the shed with a shotgun" method of video conclutions.)

Fluxmeister · Post by **Fluxmeister** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:50 am

However ridiculous it may sound.... use stills and fades. Pick out images that convey emotions and use them. It's cheating and you save a lot of footage. Frame hold is a good friend. With romance it wouldn't be hard to break up a sequence of events into stills and show progression over the 1:40 time period... maybe even go through a few sequences breaking them up with some kind of interesting visual transition between sequences.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:52 am

Fluxmeister wrote:However ridiculous it may sound.... use stills and fades. Pick out images that convey emotions and use them. It's cheating and you save a lot of footage. Frame hold is a good friend. With romance it wouldn't be hard to break up a sequence of events into stills and show progression over the 1:40 time period... maybe even go through a few sequences breaking them up with some kind of interesting visual transition between sequences.

In other words... use visual filler to cover musical filler?