Vids are FuNN, TOO! ^_^

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:45 am

staces wrote:
analysis: straw man argument.
Actually I think that it false dilemma, dicto simpliciter or the nautralistic fallacy. :wink:

No, it's the straw man. You were attacking a distorted position.

A false dilemma would have been you presenting, say, a choice between "effectsy" and "good" vids, which you didn't. Dicto simpliciter would have been you making a sweeping generalization: "all effectsy vids cannot be good". Naturalistic fallacy would be appropriate had you said or implied something like "More and more people are starting to dislike effectsy videos, therefore they are not good".

CHAMELEON_D_H · Post by **CHAMELEON_D_H** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:16 am

trythil wrote:
staces wrote:
analysis: straw man argument.
Actually I think that it false dilemma, dicto simpliciter or the nautralistic fallacy.
No, it's the straw man. You were attacking a distorted position.

A false dilemma would have been you presenting, say, a choice between "effectsy" and "good" vids, which you didn't. Dicto simpliciter would have been you making a sweeping generalization: "all effectsy vids cannot be good". Naturalistic fallacy would be appropriate had you said or implied something like "More and more people are starting to dislike effectsy videos, therefore they are not good".

I'm, confused.... But i too like shiny stuff, like color switching arrows....

staces · Post by **staces** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:07 am

No, it isn't straw man because I wasn't trying to push their argument over, I was trying to do an over simplification of the concept of fun. But whatever. It's a bad argument either way but then again it's a stupid post. =)

dj_ultima_the_great · Post by **dj_ultima_the_great** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:21 am

staces wrote:Mary Sue authors have fun writting crappy fanfiction and inflicting it upon the masses too.

Can I PLEASE destroy those people?

Anything with a self-insertion or original character insert needs to die. I have only read ONE fanfic where the original character was good. ONE.

yumi+chan · Post by **yumi+chan** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:22 am

angelx03 wrote:AMVs are much better than those "music" videos found in MTV, duh!

Yeah, you're right. I think AMVs are a lot better than the videos which are on MTV.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:32 am

MTV plays music videos?

OtakuForLife · Post by **OtakuForLife** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:08 pm

They play emo alot

VH1 Mega Hits did, untill they got canceled of digtial.

MarcellaRyoko · Post by **MarcellaRyoko** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:49 pm

Dang! ^_^ That was fuNN! More like funy....yeah I'm a dork...LOL At least someone replied.....small victory!

DeinReich · Post by **DeinReich** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:17 pm

dokool wrote:MTV plays music videos?

Yea, at 2am you might get to see Backstreet Boys videos

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:27 pm

staces wrote:No, it isn't straw man because I wasn't trying to push their argument over, I was trying to do an over simplification of the concept of fun.

The straw man fallacy is not concerned with overturning the original argument. It's about overturning a distorted version of that argument, which you just admitted to (i.e. oversimplification). Hence, straw man.

Perhaps secundum quid would also be fitting.