What is Premiere FOR?

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Post by Pwolf » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:10 pm

SQ wrote:The massive amount of tech schools/colleges not teaching it, but rather instead teaching exclusively Avid or FCP respectively, where some schools focus on one alone(depending on what the course is geared toward: General or advertisement) and every single movie I've ever watched credits saying "edited using Avid"(or something like that).

And then news broadcasting has boxes totally seperate from everything else(Stupid Casablanca AVIO needs to burn in HELL).

With the total lack of Premiere being mentioned except for editing/video broadcasting magazines(and I don't even know who subscribes to that other than my highschool Vid. Prods. Teacher), it just seems like AMVers are the only people in the world using Premiere.
aye, but again, as zrx pointed out... there is a broader range of profensional video editing that doesn't completety involve high production movies or tv stations. schools also tend to have contracts with companies for using and teaching with their products. which in turn makes the students like the software more then another. aslo premiere hasn't always been the "best" program out there for the industry so FCP and avid have a longer history (i if recall correctly). it's pretty much all preference...


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Post by doughboy » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:20 pm

Is the iPod the only mp3 player in the market? Of course not, but people see the commercials and assume it's the only one worth buying. Same with editing, the industry gravitated towards 2 products and made them standards. The only reason people don't sway from them is cross-compatability, personal preference, and/or ignorance.

Premiere Pro is still a new thing, it'll take a while before people see it as more than a simple "swiss army knife of digital video." That's always how I saw the earlier non-Pro releases, they were made to assist pros/hobbyists in throwing all types of different containers and codecs into the thing and arrange them at will.

Since professionals strickly use Cineon, Uncompressed, or DV-HD, they've just stuck with what they know uses them best (AVID, FCP). Plus most artists are computer unfriendly, so they're stuck using Macs which naturally makes them gravitate towards Apple products and swear fealty without exploring alternative editing systems.

It's easier to list why people don't use it, but I don't think you'll ever get a good answer as to who does "professionally." The professional standards are what they are right now, and I don't anything will break them until someone shows some grapes and produces a mega-succesful "something-or-other" that uses Premiere Pro. Only word of mouth from a success story will make most people budge.

BTW, I learned Premiere through college courses, probably why I"m having trouble finding advanced editing jobs. :P

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Post by doughboy » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:08 pm

BTW, I just remembered the "Promotions Department" at work uses Premiere, but they'll be switching to FCP pretty soon. :oops:

That Dept makes all the self-promotional (whoring) ads that my TV news station runs, all the "tonight at 11" *cue silly motion graphics and annoying voice overs*

I'm pretty sure they're switching "because they're supposed to," not because they need to. :x

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Post by devilmaykickass » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:18 pm

Cartoon Network uses Premiere and After Effects...one of those white text on black background Adult Swim things that are always shown before and after commercials said so.

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Post by risk one » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:05 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Oh, and as for why Avid and FCP are taught instead of Premiere, its simply because they are the most advanced industry standard software out there.
There also seems to be a misconception that Macs are always better than PC's for any kind of graphical stuff (especially among the 'artistic' crowd), so a lot of art schools buy macs, probably with a convenient deal to include FCP for a discount.
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Post by Kalium » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:11 pm

risk one wrote:There also seems to be a misconception that Macs are always better than PC's for any kind of graphical stuff (especially among the 'artistic' crowd), so a lot of art schools buy macs, probably with a convenient deal to include FCP for a discount.
Apple gives a flat $50 education discount on the hardware. There's probably a larger one on the software.

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Post by Zarxrax » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:20 pm

Oh, and the TV series Family Guy (at least the first couple seasons) was edited on Adobe Premiere 6.x, complete with abundant "deinterlace when speed is below 100%" problems throughout :P

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Post by ssj4lonewolf » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:43 am

Kalium wrote:
risk one wrote:There also seems to be a misconception that Macs are always better than PC's for any kind of graphical stuff (especially among the 'artistic' crowd), so a lot of art schools buy macs, probably with a convenient deal to include FCP for a discount.
Apple gives a flat $50 education discount on the hardware. There's probably a larger one on the software.
more like 15% on everything in the apple store online for college students.
Oh god, that black dude with the afro is always making those damn trash ass music hip hop amvs...he needs to do something with techno or rock....
.......as if I would do something like that.
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Post by requiett » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:33 am

There are also a lot of hometown-business editors whom Premiere is just right for.

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Post by bum » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:39 am

Zarxrax wrote:Oh, and the TV series Family Guy (at least the first couple seasons) was edited on Adobe Premiere 6.x, complete with abundant "deinterlace when speed is below 100%" problems throughout :P
You sure thoughs problems werent caused by the guy who ripped and BT'd the epps?

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