How do we attract feelings in AMV:s?

[Fall_Child42]

The song has to GO with the anime.

WRONG.

nothing HAS to do anything.

I wish people would stop trying to make fake rules and force them upon others.

you say you think AMVs are art, if this is true than you should no art has no rules, stop trying to make some.

[CrackTheSky]

The song has to GO with the anime.

rofl

Absolutely not.

[miihai]

well...the thing is I'm wondering what PEOPLE think or feel when they see an amv...if they think that something could be better, like a different song or different scenes...there's no rule to this...I just wander what YOU think contracts in an amv...^^

How can I tell what constitutes a spoiler?

[miihai]

Ok...well this list of anime HAS a function in this!
It's examples of different amv:s, all with different genres.
But if you want to do an amv of, for example, bleach, you have to find a song that fits the anime, right??!!

1. Spoilers don't bother me, in fact spoilers tend to attract me to an anime if the spoilers are interesting enough.

2. That depends on if the music compliments the video and vice versa. I tend to attempt to sync the video to the music, rather than trying to bend the music to fit the video.

a. just because someone slapped some music to some clips that doesn't mean that it's going to effect me emotionally. Unless there is a connection between the two mediums.

b. I don't really like the idea of trading out songs, for videos. A person should have a solid concept that ties both sources together or the concept is going to "fail" (at least it will for me)

as for your list of anime I'm not sure what it's there for.

[Sukunai]

not everyone believes amvs are art...

Yes the ones that suck are not art.

I thought that was obvious.

[Sukunai]

The song has to GO with the anime.

WRONG.

nothing HAS to do anything.

I wish people would stop trying to make fake rules and force them upon others.

you say you think AMVs are art, if this is true than you should no art has no rules, stop trying to make some.

They're not fake rules, they're not even rules.

They're "conditions", mine. If the song works poorly with the amv, I call it crap, and that's the condition the creator gets to deal with

"nothing HAS to do anything"

You are quite right. For example, I do NOT have to buy anime, I can always settle for subs, or even just say screw it and download it illegally in any of a number of methods.

That too isn't a rule, it's a condition.

There's a reason they're called starving artists by the way.

In the end, if you are only making the amv for yourself, why upload it?

[badmartialarts]

not everyone believes amvs are art...

Yes the ones that suck are not art.

I thought that was obvious.

Van Gogh probably finger-painted before he grew up, chopped his own ear off as a present for an ex, and began painting canvasses that are widely viewed as his most beautiful and artistic. I like the stuff in between when he painted normal better, really... I think the same applies to my taste in AMVs, although I go off on real weird jaunts sometimes in my concepts. (A lot of those never make it past planning.)


As for emotive response? That's really hard to judge. The most reliable way is to just put something together that gets the emotions going in YOU that you want, then hope your audience 'gets' where you were going with your scene, song, and effects choices. If they don't get it, then they probably aren't people you'll ever be able to cater to anyway because your vision and theirs is too different. But you'll be surprised how easy it is to find people who get you...people are pretty much the same, no matter how much of a beautiful and unique snowflake you think you are in your dark corner sipping absinthe..

[Fall_Child42]

"nothing HAS to do anything"

You are quite right.

if I'm right why are you contradicting me?

Claiming something MUST be done is a rule.

a condition logically speaking is a rule.
A + B = C
if condition A or B is not met (or another way to put it is if the rules for A and B are not followed) than it cannot = C

now if you had said "I like it when the song goes with the anime" there would be no problem, but you did not.

You created a rule - the song HAS to go with the anime.
(you also failed to define your terms no one knows what "goes with" means but this is a tangent and is not yet relevant)

not everyone believes amvs are art...

Yes the ones that suck are not art.

I thought that was obvious.

and I sure hope that was sarcasm :\

[badmartialarts]

They're not fake rules, they're not even rules.

They're "conditions", mine. If the song works poorly with the amv, I call it crap, and that's the condition the creator gets to deal with

What if you are the one with crappy perception... A color-blind person may love a video with alternating red and green flashes that nauseate you. Aesthetics is a tricky subject to delve into, trying to define art as something intrinsic to a particular item or as something extrinsic that only perception can apply to an item. I mean, just because you watch a video of mine and tell me it sucks doesn't change my creative process one iota; I know I like it, and I know a least a few other people in the world like it, so I am pleased. I'm sure that is the same process that is going though the minds of the people making the videos you deem 'sucky'; they like them, and probably quite a few of their friends like them as well. Uploading it here, they find even more people who like their ideas. And then you step in and try to tell them they are wrong...ha! They will scoff at thee, bite their thumb at thee, etc. The best you can do is offer your constructive advice and expect it to not be taken.

[Sukunai]

Fall_Child42 there's a future for you in wargaming

Doubt you will get that, but as long as you know it's not vital to me if you don't.