Anti-Trolling rule needs to take affect more?

[MaboroshiStudio]

Okay, I'm gonna be the one to say it...you can't be like "blipvert (hell style) videos aren't fair" and then be like "trolling super popular videos that win a lot is fine stop complaining"...it's all about audience entertainment right? If you call "unfair" on one thing then do so for the other too, don't have a double standard. By the pandering troll logic....just "make a better video and beat it"...amirite?

[Shui]

just "make a better video and beat it"...amirite?

true words

[Ileia]

Serious question:

I've never coordinated an AMV contest, so I'm genuinely curious. From the standpoint of an AMV coordinator whose main goal is to put on a good show for an audience to enjoy, why make it a contest at all? Why not just an exhibition of previously-established awesome videos? (Realizing, of course, that some cons have dedicated AMV rooms where you can watch videos all day long and some have only the contest.)

[BasharOfTheAges]

Convention executives' expectations, attendee expectations, perceived parity with cospay events, other con politics, etc.

[Castor Troy]

The audience loves seeing people battle... TO THE DEATH!

[Scintilla]

As an attendee, I always enjoyed the power of my vote, of having a say in the selection of winners. And it made for a good conversation starter -- the viewing experience became less passive, made us viewers make some tough decisions.

I won't deny that I've thought about the idea of putting on an Expo-like showing where everything is pre-judged and the awards are decided ahead of time; it would undeniably make certain things easier for us as staffers. But the good level of audience participation (we got something like 400 ballots last year) makes me reluctant to try it; it tells me that enough people do care about the contest enough to want to vote.

Now if only more attendees would give us any sort of post-con feedback on the contest...

[Cyanna]

Also I think audiences get more excited over winners that they have some emotional investment in. Not that they couldn't get excited over an Expo-type show. But sitting in a crowd listening to people root for their favorite video under their breath before the announcement is very exciting. Sometimes it's the one you voted for. Sometimes it's the one you would have voted for if you didn't vote for yours. Sometimes it's actually YOURS. Aaaaand....sometimes it's the one you hated. But the energy is still there.

But I doubt you would get that amount of audience energy in a pre-selected showcase because the audience doesn't have the same level of investment.

[Gene Starwind 21122]

Also I think audiences get more excited over winners that they have some emotional investment in. Not that they couldn't get excited over an Expo-type show. But sitting in a crowd listening to people root for their favorite video under their breath before the announcement is very exciting. Sometimes it's the one you voted for. Sometimes it's the one you would have voted for if you didn't vote for yours. Sometimes it's actually YOURS. Aaaaand....sometimes it's the one you hated. But the energy is still there.

But I doubt you would get that amount of audience energy in a pre-selected showcase because the audience doesn't have the same level of investment.

I agree with this. There is a level of excitement when you are voting live at a convention.

[Vlad G Pohnert]

Serious question:

I've never coordinated an AMV contest, so I'm genuinely curious. From the standpoint of an AMV coordinator whose main goal is to put on a good show for an audience to enjoy, why make it a contest at all? Why not just an exhibition of previously-established awesome videos? (Realizing, of course, that some cons have dedicated AMV rooms where you can watch videos all day long and some have only the contest.)

Couple of factors... A Contest will DRAW people over just an expo. this may be more of a perception, but the audience in a contest expects to see the best of the best and they are always curious of who will win (usually awards ceremonies for AMVs are packed too)...

And as mentioned if there is voting, the audience feels they are part of something and audience participation seems to be always popular in many respects.

the other thing is that every con wants a contest over just a showing and as such more resources and bigger rooms are always given out to a AMV contest rather then just a showing.

Vlad

[MaboroshiStudio]

Serious question:

I've never coordinated an AMV contest, so I'm genuinely curious. From the standpoint of an AMV coordinator whose main goal is to put on a good show for an audience to enjoy, why make it a contest at all? Why not just an exhibition of previously-established awesome videos? (Realizing, of course, that some cons have dedicated AMV rooms where you can watch videos all day long and some have only the contest.)

Couple of factors... A Contest will DRAW people over just an expo. this may be more of a perception, but the audience in a contest expects to see the best of the best and they are always curious of who will win (usually awards ceremonies for AMVs are packed too)...

And as mentioned if there is voting, the audience feels they are part of something and audience participation seems to be always popular in many respects.

the other thing is that every con wants a contest over just a showing and as such more resources and bigger rooms are always given out to a AMV contest rather then just a showing.

Vlad

I will say having a dedicated room is cool, but allowing people to show their stuff to a empty room isn't that much fun either. People show up for contests so I am interested to see how MTAC will play out this year.